WW LXXXVIII: What Lies in the Dark (Game Thread)

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

Perhaps the conversation in the narration meant that Shelob did not disclose the identity of the spiderlings to each other, which is why one thought it was alone?

That's how I took it, seeing that Shelob is apparently not allowed to tell the children who xyr siblings are.

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Due to an unplanned trip out of town for which I will leave shortly (2/3 awesome, 1/3 my favorite English teacher died unexpectedly) I get to vote right now without any idea what I'm doing.

I know who I don't want to vote for (phantom, Nog, wilwa, Lhuna) but that's not for any legitimate reason (oh hi, gut instinct).

That being said, I'm going with

++Lottie

because I have no reason to trust her, but my vote is early enough that if y'all think I'm completely off base, you can treat it accordingly.

I'm trying to figure out if this means my suspicion of Lottie may be more merited, or less. Or neither.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I'm trying to figure out if this means my suspicion of Lottie may be more merited, or less. Or neither.

How could that have any bearing on your suspicion of me? From what I could gather, she voted me because she'd seen nothing that indicated my innocence, not because she saw anything to indicate my guilt. The only way it would have any affect on your suspicion is it makes it easier for you to lynch me. Is this post just another reiteration of how you suspect me, without furthering your claims any? You don't put forward points, you simply speculate on whether there might be some. This is so incredibly deja-vuish...I can remember at least two games off the top of my head where this exact same thing has happened.

[wilwarin538]

Ok, I have to leave now.

This is terribly frustrating. I feel like I don't have enough information to make a good decision, so I'm just going to have to go with gut feelings here.

My vote:

++Nerwen

Good luck everyone, hopefully this goes well.

[wilwarin538]

Oh, and I'll be able to keep up with everything else that happens toDay on my breaks at work, my phone lets me come on the site but it won't let me post. I'm just letting you all know incase someone sees me do something on Facebook or something in the next few hours and wonders why I can use the internet but can't come on here. Good luck!

x'ed with Noggins

[Nogrod]

It looks like the number of spiderlings depends on whether Sam healed the one stinged on N3 or not.

If we have only one spiderling we are on 7-2 now, with two we have 6-3.

I'm looking for the scenarios just to see what our situation is.

Now Frodo is going to die anyway and if we start to look at our situation toMorrow morning we need to deduce one goodie from the tally.

So 6-2 or 5-3

Looking at the worse scenario first, aka that we lynch an innocent, we will be on 5-2 or 4-3 toMorrow morning.

The latter one looks pretty bad as it requires only one innocent to vote for another innocent for the baddies to rally into victory.

So they is a marked difference. Sam knows the answer but I do think we others should keep the worse scenario in mind when making our votes toDay.


Which brings me to the fact that I have little or nothing to say about a too big a company, namely Fea, Lottie, Nerwen, Shasta, Zil... I'll try to do something about it.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by wilwa

This is terribly frustrating. I feel like I don't have enough information to make a good decision

Seconded (I was just looking the last line of my own post and the number of people I realised I had nothing much to say).

It is the new dynamics... where there isn't such teamplay involved one could try to read (like aiding mates in voting etc.) - and of course the small number of posts from nearly everyone. Let's change that.

[the phantom]

A bit busy right now, and feeling a bit disengaged and lethargic. I mean really, if it's Shasta or Nerwen we couldn't be expected to guess it given subnormal votes and participation. If it's Fea we couldn't be expected to guess given her volunteering of special gaming conditions and general random disinterest.

Meh, whatever. Just so long as Wilwa and I don't get lynched today I don't really care. Fight it out people. I would suggest a multi-lynch, but we can't do those.

I'm sort of in the mood for just attacking anyone that accuses me, as from my perspective it's as likely as anything to be some sort of evil plot.

Perhaps I won't reach 100 posts for once.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by the phantom

I'm sort of in the mood for just attacking anyone that accuses me, as from my perspective it's as likely as anything to be some sort of evil plot.

Isn't that *always* how it looks from your perspective, phantom?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Isn't that *always* how it looks from your perspective, phantom?

Possible post of the Day. I'm just sayin'.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Possible post of the Day. I'm just sayin'.

Thank you, O Moddess.

EDIT:X'd with Zil.

[Nerwen]

Also, I'm getting sick of everyone saying I'm not posting. I've posted about as much as everyone else, actually. Which given my current circumstances has really been quite good of me, I think. So there.

EDIT:X'd with Moddess.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Also, I'm getting sick of everyone saying I'm not posting. I've posted about as much as everyone else, actually. Which given my current circumstances has really been quite good of me, I think. So there.

I can certainly sympathize. For me it's just been a matter of the perception that you haven't seemed as zealous in rooting out evil as usual. I'm very worried about you when I'm on the bad side.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Loslote

How could that have any bearing on your suspicion of me? From what I could gather, she voted me because she'd seen nothing that indicated my innocence, not because she saw anything to indicate my guilt. The only way it would have any affect on your suspicion is it makes it easier for you to lynch me. Is this post just another reiteration of how you suspect me, without furthering your claims any? You don't put forward points, you simply speculate on whether there might be some. This is so incredibly deja-vuish...I can remember at least two games off the top of my head where this exact same thing has happened.

Not going to justify, or argue. Waste your vote if you like. Even better, let a few follow your lead, and let the good side see the result.

Originally Posted by the phantom

A bit busy right now, and feeling a bit disengaged and lethargic. I mean really, if it's Shasta or Nerwen we couldn't be expected to guess it given subnormal votes and participation. If it's Fea we couldn't be expected to guess given her volunteering of special gaming conditions and general random disinterest.

I agree with all. And that I find most frightening.

Originally Posted by the phantom

I'm sort of in the mood for just attacking anyone that accuses me, as from my perspective it's as likely as anything to be some sort of evil plot.

J'accuse!

[the phantom]

True, but I can't change my ways because of how incredibly often it actually happens like that.

Oops. Not supposed to be talking. *shuts up*

[Nogrod]

Sorry. I had some frustrating problems with my mobile internet-card... Those are nice and handy but not too reliable.



Anyway. I decided to take first a look at yesterDay's voting as none had done that. And it is interesting. Here it is.

early vote Lhuna -> Lottie
- 2 hrs. Zil -> Lottie2
-.13 Lottie -> Zil
-.00 Fea -> Nog
-.00 Nog -> Lhuna
+.01 tp -> Zil2

Not voted Nerwen, Shasta, wilwa.

Now this tie looks like an interesting one. So did tp know the situation? Was it a deliberate tie and to what end? To save Lottie looks like the obvious reason (he has defended her all the game through I think), but saving an innocent or a bad Lottie?


If there were no baddies at stake yesterDay (near lynching), a tie would have been a bad idea to them as a no-lynch doesn't harvest our numbers.

If there was a baddie in danger, then they would have wished either to outvote the baddie or as the final reach create a tie.

Now of course there is an added factor, that one isn't quite sure if there will be others still voting (although on +.01 one should be quite sure).

So just asking you tp, why to go that far as to make it a no-lynch to save Lottie?


EDIT: X'd with pleasantly many...

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Sorry. I had some frustrating problems with my mobile internet-card... Those are nice and handy but not too reliable.



Anyway. I decided to take first a look at yesterDay's voting as none had done that. And it is interesting. Here it is.

early vote Lhuna -> Lottie
- 2 hrs. Zil -> Lottie2
-.13 Lottie -> Zil
-.00 Fea -> Nog
-.00 Nog -> Lhuna
+.01 tp -> Zil2

Not voted Nerwen, Shasta, wilwa.

Now this tie looks like an interesting one. So did tp know the situation? Was it a deliberate tie and to what end? To save Lottie looks like the obvious reason (he has defended her all the game through I think), but saving an innocent or a bad Lottie?

A Lottie-lynch might yield some clues.

Hm. Two votes for Nerwen, who's been fairly enigmatic to me thus far. One for Lottie, and one for Nog.

x/d with tp- Why's he so apathetic all of a sudden?