WW: LXXXV - The Lost Philosophers of Maiar

[A Little Green]

Eomer - I don't know if it's just because of the size of the village that he has slipped under my radar, or if he's doing it on purpose.
Elra - Under good old Rudolph as well.
Macalaure - Hmm. I don't agree with all he says, but he seems quite genuine.
Shasta - I'd say he looks innocent if I didn't remember how completely he's fooled me countless times before. Nah, I'll still say that. (And if you are, in fact, a wolf, I'm permitted to murder you with a chainsaw, eh? )
Loslote - The vibes I get from her are innocent, but I'm not sure I buy everything she's done.
Kitanna - I believe her Hunter claim, obviously, it would make no sense at all for anyone else. If it's possible for her I'd prefer to keep her around for longer.
Wilwa - I was uneasy with her yesterDay before the Sally-episode, I haven't thought it through whether it would have made sense for her to say that stuff if she was, in fact, a wolf, so I'm undecided.
Nessa - I'm not sure about the validity of the points against her - apart from the idea of the wolves possibly finding Ozzy seerish. I'd need to check this, not sure if I have the time.
Pitchwife - YesterDay it seemed to me like he was being suspected for being like he always is. He seems like a regular Pitch to me, meaning that I can't really say this or that about his role.
Inziladun - Leaning bad - he's always driving me nuts because I can't read him at all, but though Lommy's point is almost too easy it makes sense. Three minutes is an awfully short time to read who died and figure all that out.
Rikae - I really can't say.
Boro - I'm finding him more innocent than not.
Blind Guardian - No read.
Skip - I'm not sure a Skipwolf would be so relaxed and would find the energy to make Hunter jokes. Then again, there was something fishy too, I don't have the quote so I have no idea what that was!
Mänwe - Posted once this far and baffles me a lot. Can't say this or that.
Valier - Her references to the little Maia are so cute I'm having a hard time seeing her as evil! Other than that, I don't have much on her.
Legate - Strangely enough I don't have much of an opinion of him. Usually I read him easier than this, which unnerves me a little.
Lommie - Seems ok this far.
Aganzir - She's either the cobbler or someone trying really hard to appear as one. At least she has an ego.
Caílin - Agh, no read on her either.

Conclusions? I think this village is just way too big. I can't handle entities of this size! It seems I'm flip-flopping or have no read on most of the people. I would have to check people one by one but will definitely not have the time for that toDay.


EDIT: x-ed with Rikae, Agan and Pitch

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Agan

You're taking the word attention out of context and I don't like that one bit. It's entirely different to seek attention than to say something so obviously evil and try to wriggle out of it afterwards. Actually what's the whole point of your comment? What's the point in saying you don't believe me? As I see it, you take something I said out of context and then accuse me of lying.

I know Greenie and I have an history of suspecting each other, but that comment moved her right now from my Either category to Guilty.

That was a joke, love, though apparently badly phrased.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

All the loudmouths appear innocent to me. Inzi, Pitch, Rikae, Agan, Legate, Mac - nothing's ringing any bells for me. In any case, I'm happy to leave them all around and wait for the trails when we finally do get a wolf.

Nessa is still bothering me: she just feels like a wolf. The Ozban kill seems to tie in with it, so I'd be most inclined to kill Nessa today.

Skip feels less like a wolf today. Lommy is probably wicked but I can't get anything on her just yet. Elronds daughter and Blind Guardian, hmm... not sure. Valier does look pretty creepy. Too many people meaning it's difficult to separate feelings for everyone.

But still

++NESSA

[Valier]

Akkk Looks like I'm not going to have much time today to read. Thought I would get out a little list out there. I gotta say with a village this big it is really hard to gauge anyone yet. I also seem to be a little flip floppy, so most of my suspicions so far are just gut feelings or wolffy radar pings.

Eomer- Seems okish, slight ping there but nothing I can put my finger on, so he gets a pass...don't like his suspicions of me, saying I'm creepy...(thanks) but who does like vague suspicions of them when you are indeed innocent. And his vote for Nessa seems a little off

Elrondsdaughter- Have no read at all yet

Mac- He seems sane to me and I agree with alot he says so I say Innocent for now

Shasta- also seems logical so not high on my suspect list.

Loslote- I agree on her suspicions of Legate but not those on Mac...hmmmm not sure.

Kit- Well I believe Kit and don't think we should lynch her today...because technically we would still be getting just one "kill" but it will be at the whim and choice of Kit (no offense) and not the village for who dies today.

Wilwa- not so sure either....dang this is beginning to be a list of I don't knows...but I agree with her about Aganzir I don't believe she is the cobbler.

Nessa- No clue but don't see how alot of people want her dead....doesn't seem quite right.

Pitch- Seems a little wolfish to me, something about the tone of his posts...

Inzil- I keep wanting to believe he is innocent but my gut keeps gnawing at me that he is badddd

Rikae- Was seeming a little odd yesterday to me, but after reading her posts today I tend to think she is innocent as well.

Boro- Actually seems a little less Boro to me some how....he is usually very verbose in his posts which always made me suspect him. this time he seems more tame... so definitely not good.

Greenie-No read yet and gotta say I love her a little bit for thinkin my little Maiar is cute.

BG- okkkkk nothing...no read. Don't like the vote for Nessa, so that puts him on my not so good side

Skip- WTH? ok that was the worst joke ever!!! Who does that and plans to stay alive? I think a very dumb move, but also a very clever one for someone who has done it before and was innocent. Were you hoping it would work again? That no one would think you a wolf now? I'm not fooled..I think you be wolffish

Manwe- and enigma...Also agree that he's quiet and talking about lynching a quiet one...weird

Legate- Something is not quite right with Legate. He's high on my suspect list.

Lommy- Seems ok to me so far, plus hate to see here gone so fast after my long ww absence, so a pass for now

Agan-seems ok. I don't think shes the cobbler...that just doesn't sit well with me so far.

Cailin- also seems ok for now


Ok so that wasn't the greatest list and I am sure I have cross posted with a bunch of you...but there it is. So my vote goes to Legate, Skip, Boro, Inzil or Pitch...not sure as of yet, but I'll be around.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Sidesteps the other problems with Nessa's comment, I think. It isn't necessary that he be her packmate. I don't
actually think that Nessa, if evil, thought I knew anything at all- just that the impression I did could be used
aganst me. If she thought I actually knew something, she would more likely have night-killed me.

Not so much sidestepped it as didn't think it through to that level, but I you're right, she'd rather have killed you quietly than pointed it out in the thread and risk getting you ranger-protected. My bad.

Now, I concur with whoever it was that said it (Shasta, I think) that the sallywagon could point to a wolf among the people leading in the tally before her; which would be me, Zil and Nessa (plus possibly Lottie, but she had only two votes). At the time the sallywagon got rolling for good, Zil and I had three votes each, Nessa four. Leaving myself aside (as I'm obviously biased here), I still don't think Zil looks particularly wolvish (and I think suspecting him because his first post was made too quickly is rather flimsy), whereas Nessa not only was leading the votes, thus in most urgent need to be saved, but there are also the Rikae affair and the Ozzy kill against her. Taking that together, I think I'll stick with my "baddie-baddie-bad-bad" vote from yesterDay.

++Nessa

[A Little Green]

The votes, reasons in italics:

BG –> Nessa - doesn't feel good, too confident
Lottie –> Kit - Legate and Mac bothersome but not worth voting, votes Kit ”so that the option is there”
Skip –> Elra - submarine
Eomer –> Nessa (2) - feels like a wolf, the Ozban-kill ties up
Shasta –> Lottie - dislike of her vote
Pitch –> Nessa (3) - the purpose of sallywagon was to save Nessa


EDIT: x-ed with Agan, elra and Legate, seems like I missed Nessa's vote for Rikae! My bad.

[A Little Green]

I have to vote now so Lommy has time to post and vote too. I'm quite unsure about this, but it's the best lead I have and I'm lacking the time to come up with something better reasoned:

++ Inziladun


EDIT: x-ed with Legzy

[Rikae]

I have to notice that both our psychics feel uneasy about Inzil and Legate.

[Aganzir]

Out of those who already have votes, I'd prefer either skip or ed. I could also see myself voting for Nessa, but that'd be more like getting rid of an enigma because I don't really have an opinion on her. Also Pitch and Green are doable.

[Rikae]

++Loslote

For her Kitanna vote and for being a submarine. Also considered ED, whose vote yesterDay was a bit too safe and who is also a submarine, but my gut feeling is better about her.

Nessa could too easily be an ordo who made comments without thinking them through completely, and is also a bit too popular a target at the moment for my liking.

Edit - X'd with all since me.

[Inziladun]

Ok. I've skimmed over the past couple of hours. I guess no one wants to vote for Kitanna, eh? I wouldn't think her gift would be effective if she dies as the result of a modfire, so I guess we're just going to lose a Gifted, not with a bang but with a whimper?

I'm not impressed with Val's vote. Really, a skipwolf should have known that pulling a stunt like what he did might invite Seer attention. If he is evil, we might soon know. Looks like a bad vote to me.

[Cailín]

Because she seems so eager to wash her hands of all the blood that has been and will be spilled:

++ Loslote

[Nogrod]

Melkor looked very pleased. Actually he looked very much excited. And he couldn’t restraint himself from telling the Maiar why he was on such high spirits. He just had to share his fortunes.

“Excuse me for being a bit late, but I have been busy lately. I am the ever watchful, you know. The Firstborn are here! And the Valar have no clue – but I! And they are mortal at least in a way that they can be killed! I’ve tested that… Oh the day!

And you know what? Oromë is looking for them, sure, but he’s looking for them in totally wrong places… and I’ve set lying whispers around that those captured from among the Quendi – as they call themselves – were taken by a Great Rider with a wild horse to devour them… Cunning, eh?

I’ve brought hundreds of them here into the pits of Utumno, breaking them, corrupting and enslaving them with slow arts of cruelty. They will be the backbone of my swarming armies to come! My… dorks! My Quendblins! Hmm… I need to work on their name still.

But ha! Someone of you said earlier that Ilúvatar’s plans outshine mine and that it’s his blueprint that in the end is behind everything. Now I wonder did he plan to create the firstborn only to give me an army of slaves? Think about that…”

Melkor looked triumphant.


“So how about you Loslote? I’m in such a good mood I’d be happy to grant you a quick and only freakingly anguishing death."

Lottie stared back on the mighty Melkor and opened her mouth in a subdued defiance.

"Some things are in our control and others not. Things in our control are our opinions, pursuits, desires, aversions, and, in a word, whatever are our own actions. Things not in our control are body, reputation, command, and, in one word, whatever are not our own actions.

So what others - other prisoners or you - decide is outside my control and thus nothing to me.

We are disturbed, not by things themselves, but by the thoughts which we form concerning them. Death, for instance, is not terrible, else it would have appeared so to Sally as well. But the terror consists in our notion of death that it is terrible. When therefore we are hindered, or disturbed, or grieved, let us never attribute it to others, but to ourselves; that is, to our own principles. An uninstructed person will lay the fault of his own bad condition upon others. Someone just starting instruction will lay the fault on himself. Some who is perfectly instructed will place blame neither on others nor on herself."

"Okay... stop that gibberish." Melkor said quietly. And then he vanished.

Everyone was still, just looking for what would happen.

Nothing happened.

Many had started to feel the insecure relief, when Lottie suddenly started to melt in front of their eyes: first the skin, then the revealed organs, and finally the bones. All that was left of her was a pool of rainbow-coloured liquid on the floor which in turn started slowly turning black and evaporating as it did.

Lottie had been an ordinary innocent.



The living:

Eomer of the Rohirrim - An associate of Ossë, speciality: lochs and ponds, great alliance with frogs
elronds_daughter - A spirit of no-nonsense
Macalaure - Carmótar, the Maia of housework
Shastanis Althreduin - A spirit of water
Kitanna - A spirit of all things unimaginative
wilwarin538 - Belongs to Vána, cares for all the small garden dwelling, winged creatures
Nessa Telrunya - The patron of town criers across the world
Pitchwife - Tender of Oromë's dogs
Inziladun - A vassal of Námo, serving as a warden in Mandos
Rikae - A spirit in charge of silicon & static electricity
Boromir88 - A Maia of Mandos, the interpretter of dreams
A Little Green - A spirit in charge of aliens, hummingbirds and farming
Blind Guardian -A spirit of evil ways
Skip Spence - A follower of Aule with an avid interest in behavioural sciences
Mänwe - A spirit of short acquintances
Valier - A handmaiden of Yavanna, collecting the morning dew from the petals of flowers
Legate of Amon Lanc - A Maia associated with the unfathomed depths of the world's seas but also with the waters surrounding Arda in the outer space...
Thinlómien - A maia who lives in Lórien and paints the dreams of those sleeping there
Aganzir - Aka. Firebeck, a spirit of fire
Caílin - A spirit of secrecy


The dead:

Satansaloser2005 - (Innocent) A spirit of ducks, muffins and cookies; reduced to ashes and dust on D1.
Ozban – (Innocent) Yavanna's underling with inferiority complex. Caretaker of undergrowth and small bushes in general, especially blackberries; ripped to pieces, dried and unintentionally pulverized on N2.
Kath – (Innocent) A spirit of nostalgy; ripped to pieces, dried and unintentionally pulverized on N2.
Loslote - (Innocent) A spirit of sunshine and rainbows; melted down and turned into vapor on D2.


It's Night 3 now.

Hush everyone, except those who have legal errands...