WW: LXXXV - The Lost Philosophers of Maiar - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Inziladun · 01-03-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

It's happened before - I threw out vague suspicion of Shasta Day 1, and he was lynched near-unanimously. I assumed no one would jump on it then, and they did, so now I'm assuming they will and, hopefully, that'll mean that they won't.

Well, baddies can latch onto any old bandwagon. What makes Lottie's so inviting?

Loslote · 01-03-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

Well, baddies can latch onto any old bandwagon. What makes Lottie's so inviting?

It might be the complimentary rainbows and good interior lighting. I'll run a few surveys and get back to you on that.

EDIT: xed with the Mod-Dude

Macalaure · 01-03-2011, 08:29 PM

About all those cobbler-wolf hint... quest... thing.

In my experience, it's very unusual for wolves to hint to a suspected cobbler in a normal game, unless it's late in the game and every vote counts. In this game, the cobbler can communicate with the wolves to an extent - their connection is better than usual - and now they are suddenly certainly going to throw around hints? Possible, yes, since the temptation to use the cobbler strategically is there, but we have nearly zero chance to detect any hints now. Once a baddie is dead, we will certainly see clearer, but looking out now and possibly basing suspicions and cases on it, is almost certainly going to backfire.

Inziladun · 01-03-2011, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

About all those cobbler-wolf hint... quest... thing.

In my experience, it's very unusual for wolves to hint to a suspected cobbler in a normal game, unless it's late in the game and every vote counts. In this game, the cobbler can communicate with the wolves to an extent - their connection is better than usual - and now they are suddenly certainly going to throw around hints? Possible, yes, since the temptation to use the cobbler strategically is there, but we have nearly zero chance to detect any hints now. Once a baddie is dead, we will certainly see clearer, but looking out now and possibly basing suspicions and cases on it, is almost certainly going to backfire.

I think hints are far more likely coming from the Cobbler to the wolves. The Cobbler doesn't mind getting lynched, really, and as you say, hinting on the part of the wolves is rather risky this early.

Boromir88 · 01-03-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

I had a dream I was eating Frosted Mini Wheats, and when I woke up my pillow was gone.

Were they evil frosted mini wheats, or ordinary, and do you even like frosted mini wheats?

As to your pillow being gone, have you found it? And if so, where? Sometimes I throw my pillows around in my sleep. If this is the case, than it would suggest you were battling some unknown force.

If it's the case that someone took your pillow, in your sleep, than the pillow being gone is irrelevant to the dream.

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

I think hints are far more likely coming from the Cobbler to the wolves. The Cobbler doesn't mind getting lynched, really, and as you say, hinting on the part of the wolves is rather risky this early.

And we always forget the usual truth that gifteds walk the tight rope of sending cobbler hints so the wolves don't kill them, but not looking too cobblerish where they wind up getting lynched if no one has solid wolf suspects. It's a mighty fine tight-rope to walk.

Boromir88 · 01-03-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

Were they evil frosted mini wheats, or ordinary, and do you even like frosted mini wheats?

As to your pillow being gone, have you found it? And if so, where? Sometimes I throw my pillows around in my sleep. If this is the case, than it would suggest you were battling some unknown force.

If it's the case that someone took your pillow, in your sleep, than the pillow being gone is irrelevant to the dream.

Or maybe you ate your pillow while dreaming about eating frosted mini wheats?

Nessa Telrunya · 01-03-2011, 08:36 PM

I'm not really so sure about the whole Pitchwife suspicion I'm seeing here. With unexplained Day1 suspicion, when nearly anything would suffice, it's perfectly reasonable for him to want some answers. So where does that put Rikae?

She seems to know something we don't.

Rikae · 01-03-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nessa Telrunya

So where does that put Rikae?

She seems to know something we don't.

If I did, it would behoove you as an innocent not to mention it.

But actually, I'm becoming relatively more OK with Pitchie and less so with Inzil and Lottie at the moment. It's all in the reactions...

Oh yeah, and: quite a lot of talk about how various roles are likely to behave for such a basic game, isn't there?

Inziladun · 01-03-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

Or maybe you ate your pillow while dreaming about eating frosted mini wheats?

Such wisdom. A true gift, you have.

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If I did, it would behoove you as an innocent not to mention it.

But actually, I'm becoming relatively more OK with Pitchie and less so with Inzil and Lottie at the moment. It's all in the reactions...

Oh yeah, and: quite a lot of talk about how various roles are likely to behave for such a basic game, isn't there?

Now there's the Rikae we know and love.

satansaloser2005 · 01-03-2011, 09:38 PM

Rikae, darling, I've missed you. <3

Thus, as a gesture of affection and joy at your return....

++Ri....

....ght then, I wish I could have gotten on more tonight, but it didn't work out. I'll do my best to run over the thread and put up some more reactions. If nothing else, I can at least pop in and vote. Hopefully I'll be back in the morning.

Nogrod · 01-04-2011, 04:00 AM

Exactly 12 hours to the deadline...

Ozban · 01-04-2011, 07:38 AM

Sorry for double-posting, this just stroke me as I reread the one before.

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Originally Posted by Nessa Telrunya

I'm not really so sure about the whole Pitchwife suspicion I'm seeing here. With unexplained Day1 suspicion, when nearly anything would suffice, it's perfectly reasonable for him to want some answers. So where does that put Rikae?

She seems to know something we don't.

Nessa, would you care to explain that post? Were you trying to suggest any powers, or even gift on Rikae's part? Why would you bring attention to someone whom you suspect to be the seer (that's how I understood your post) on Day1? Wouldn't that endanger the "possible-seer" ???
Way my reasoning goes that isn't something "good-guy" should do.

Loslote · 01-06-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

It's more than likely that the wolves and the cobbler try to identify each other as soon as possible, so we should watch out for people who look like they know too much (even if they can't really do that till tomorrow). Of course the wolves & the cobbler have information we don't, but it's still possible they get overly confident and slip something.

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Originally Posted by Nessa Telrunya

So where does that put Rikae?

She seems to know something we don't.

This could be a coincidence. It could have no correlation whatsoever. Or it could be cobbler!Nessa trying to hint back at Agan, who she thinks is a wolf, or it could be wolf!Nessa trying to hint back at Agan, who she thinks is the cobbler. Just throwing that out there.

01-03-2011, 08:36 PM	#7
Nessa Telrunya Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In a paper bag Posts: 396	I'm not really so sure about the whole Pitchwife suspicion I'm seeing here. With unexplained Day1 suspicion, when nearly anything would suffice, it's perfectly reasonable for him to want some answers. So where does that put Rikae? She seems to know something we don't. __________________ Joined together wrote our names upon the page Seven times alliance our loyalties we gave

01-03-2011, 09:38 PM	#10
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Rikae, darling, I've missed you. <3 Thus, as a gesture of affection and joy at your return.... ++Ri.... ....ght then, I wish I could have gotten on more tonight, but it didn't work out. I'll do my best to run over the thread and put up some more reactions. If nothing else, I can at least pop in and vote. Hopefully I'll be back in the morning. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

01-04-2011, 04:00 AM	#11
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Exactly 12 hours to the deadline... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

01-03-2011, 08:29 PM	#3
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	About all those cobbler-wolf hint... quest... thing. In my experience, it's very unusual for wolves to hint to a suspected cobbler in a normal game, unless it's late in the game and every vote counts. In this game, the cobbler can communicate with the wolves to an extent - their connection is better than usual - and now they are suddenly certainly going to throw around hints? Possible, yes, since the temptation to use the cobbler strategically is there, but we have nearly zero chance to detect any hints now. Once a baddie is dead, we will certainly see clearer, but looking out now and possibly basing suspicions and cases on it, is almost certainly going to backfire.