Werewolf LXXXI: Under the Misty Mountains - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

the phantom · 09-19-2010, 02:03 PM

REP VOTING DAY 1:

Sally-->Phantom
Lottie-->Phantom (2)
Rune-->Lommie
Greenie-->Nerwen
Nog-->Izzy
Mira-->Phantom (3)
Boro-->Wilwa
Lommie-->Greenie
Steve-->Greenie (2)
Dun-->Boro
Shasta-->Izzy (2)
Legate-->Nerwen (2)
Cel-->Foley
Phantom-->Cel
Nerwen-->Lommie (2)
Wilwa-->Lommie (3)
Foley-->Cel (2)
Izzy-->Wilwa (2)

REP VOTING DAY 2:

Nerwen-->Shasta
Rune-->Steve
Green-->Steve (2)
Nog-->Legate
Steve-->Legate (2)
Lommy-->Nog
Inzil-->Shasta (2)
Wilwa-->Foley
Legate-->Foley (2)
Shasta-->Nerwen
Sally-->Nog (2)
Phantom-->Legate (3)

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LYNCH VOTING DAY 1:

Lommy-->Lottie (3)
Green-->Sally (2)
Nerwen-->Sally (3)
Nerwen-->Boro (1)
Celuien-->Boro (3)
Wilwa-->Sally (4)
Wilwa-->Lottie (4)
Izzy-->Lottie (6)

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And now, some observations-

(1) I'm not sure I entirely understand the Rep vote of Legate today. From beginning to end of this day he generally seems to believe I am an Orc, and yet he handed his vote to Foley who has attacked no one other than me this game. Not to mention that she didn't put in an appearance yesterday and said she would barely be around today, and so really, how much time does that give her to catch up on reading and change her opinions?

I am not trying to be insulting and say that Foley is predictable and a tool to be used (she seems quite independent), but in this specific situation where she was so very very against me yesterday and will have little time to change her views today, I can't help but suspect she's being taken advantage of here. And then when she votes me (if I'm lynched) Legate can act all sad and justified, "See, I was right, he was innocent, and I didn't vote for him," and pretend that he had nothing to do with killing me.

(2) Same with Wilwa naturally, who also voted for Foley. From what I've seen she hasn't exactly been after me today. She's been more wishy-washy, sort of the old "I can see your point about how he might not be trustworthy" but then "Oh but this doesn't make him look bad". About the only certain thing I saw from her regarding me is that she didn't want to make me a Rep. But to vote for Foley given her very obvious leanings and time restraints- I've got to think Wilwa actually wants me dead.

(3) If Sally is innocent, then the lynch voting from yesterday... Celuien and Green would be the more obvious votes to save Lottie, while Nerwen and Wilwa would be the careful and subtle votes to save Lottie.

Green straight up tossed out the second one of the duo (Sally-Lottie), while Celuien seeing a chance to lynch Boro put him into a tie for the lead.

Nerwen put Sally into a tie with Lottie and then used her other vote to nudge up Boro (his first vote)- a move much less obvious than tossing two votes onto one of them.

Then Wilwa was perhaps the most calculating of all. Had she used both votes on Sally, it still would not have put Lottie out of lynching, as Izzy could've tied them and I believe had stated at that stage that she favored lynching Lottie, not to mention that I was around and had listed Sally (but not Lottie) on my list of people I definitely did not want to lynch, and so Wilwa would have assumed that if I wished to avoid a double lynch I would've lynche Lottie ahead of Sally. Also, giving them each only one vote also kept the door open for the double lynch with Boro, as I had indeed been shopping him as a candidate. Wow... when I think about this and write it out, Wilwa's vote, if she's a SoE, looks downright brilliant given the situation.

satansaloser2005 · 09-19-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Then Wilwa was perhaps the most calculating of all. Had she used both votes on Sally, it still would not have put Lottie out of lynching, as Izzy could've tied them and I believe had stated at that stage that she favored lynching Lottie, not to mention that I was around and had listed Sally (but not Lottie) on my list of people I definitely did not want to lynch, and so Wilwa would have assumed that if I wished to avoid a double lynch I would've lynche Lottie ahead of Sally. Also, giving them each only one vote also kept the door open for the double lynch with Boro, as I had indeed been shopping him as a candidate. Wow... when I think about this and write it out, Wilwa's vote, if she's a SoE, looks downright brilliant given the situation.

See what I mean? She's an evil, evil muffin and needs to be eaten....erm, lynched.

Nogrod · 09-19-2010, 02:13 PM

phantom: stop that "I'm the known orc and everyone's having a conspiracy to lynch me" -parade, please.

Shastanis Althreduin · 09-19-2010, 02:23 PM

Also, all this suspicion of Wilwa has the feel of a bandwagon to it. Especially after Phantom hopped on (I was going to say Sally as well but I think she's actually been suspecting the Muffin most of the day). I probably won't be voting her today. Ideally I'd like to lynch Sally, but I don't think Legate and Nogrod are going to go for it, and to beat their five (should they choose to vote together), Eonwe, Folwren, and myself would all have to vote the same way. I think Eonwe was in the "Lottie being an elf makes Sally look better" camp, and it's looking like Folwren may not be here to vote at all, so... Hm. I need to think.

Nogrod · 09-19-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Also, all this suspicion of Wilwa has the feel of a bandwagon to it. Especially after Phantom hopped on (I was going to say Sally as well but I think she's actually been suspecting the Muffin most of the day).

I do agree with this bandwagoning feeling and I don't like it... But still to me she looks like the best option toDay. And I'm not going to shy away from reasonable odds of getting an elf lynched only because some others agree. Look at my post #469 as I came back online after reading D1 at home. And read it concerning Wilwa. Also, before assessing tp as "just hopping on a bandwagon", please read what he says about Wilwa's voting. It makes a lot of sense (well of course as I had reached the same conclusion myself

).

So rather than say: x is bandwagoning, please tell me where the stated suspicion goes wrong. If we who think her suspicious are missing an important point, then please share it so that we don't lynch an innocent.

X'd with tp

wilwarin538 · 09-19-2010, 02:50 PM

So I have a Glirdanpie visiting me at the moment, but he'll be returning to his secret lair shortly. Once I get back I will be able to contribute more for the rest of the day.

Nogrod · 09-19-2010, 02:53 PM

Btw. Shasta - and ayone not thinking about this before, how about you really considered this...

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Originally Posted by the rules

Beginning on Night Three, the orc of unknown allegiance will receive intelligence based on xis decision of allegiance (which xe will make via PM on Day Two). If this tricksy orc chooses to ally xerself with the Sons of Elrond, xe will learn the identity of one Son of Elrond per Night until each Son is revealed. The Sons of Elrond will be notified that this orc is now playing for their side, but they will not be given the player's identity. If this orc chooses to ally xerself with the village, xe will receive the names of the players the seer has dreamt of, but not their roles. The seer will be notified that this orc is now playing for their side, but they will not be given the player's identity. The orc of unknown allegiance appears as as such to the seer, should xe be dreamt of. If the seer dreams of xim before xe chooses sides, the seer will be updated as to xer side once xe has chosen. The orc of unknown allegiance MUST choose a side on Day Two and may not remain neutral.

You all know the choice has been made toDay...

Nogrod · 09-19-2010, 03:10 PM

++ Wilwa ++

Mainly because of what I said in #469.

In short:

Her actions as a decent orc do not make a lot of sense (she said she would prefer lynching Lottie but ended up sharing the votes between Lottie & Sally) - and she sneaked away leaving the stage for the others - possibly elves (an orc W wouldn't have known who Izzy & tp were) - to act on at such a crucial moment of a threeway tie (and only 25 minutes to the DL).

If she is an elf her actions make a lot of sense: tactical vote-choice in a desperate situation: she couldn't vote for Boro without looking very suspicious, just trying to save Lottie might backfire as tp would save Sally if he could, and actually just voting Lottie would mean killing a mate. Also skipping away from the last minutes looks like elvish to me, meaning she didn't want to be forced to make the final choice. Just look above how tough the situation would have been.

Nogrod · 09-19-2010, 03:18 PM

No one around, so time to home and bed then.

All the sense and sensibility to you reps!

satansaloser2005 · 09-19-2010, 03:19 PM

*pops in*

Headache and internet troubles (one seemingly a side effect yet from earlier this week, the other just hateful routers) so I'm going to be gone for a bit. I'm hoping to be back, but certainly don't depend on it, as I can't promise my return.

*pops out*

P.S. Nog, go to bed! <3

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-19-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

(1) I'm not sure I entirely understand the Rep vote of Legate today. From beginning to end of this day he generally seems to believe I am an Orc, and yet he handed his vote to Foley who has attacked no one other than me this game. Not to mention that she didn't put in an appearance yesterday and said she would barely be around today, and so really, how much time does that give her to catch up on reading and change her opinions?

I am not trying to be insulting and say that Foley is predictable and a tool to be used (she seems quite independent), but in this specific situation where she was so very very against me yesterday and will have little time to change her views today, I can't help but suspect she's being taken advantage of here. And then when she votes me (if I'm lynched) Legate can act all sad and justified, "See, I was right, he was innocent, and I didn't vote for him," and pretend that he had nothing to do with killing me.

I voted Foley simply because I think her very innocent, one of the most, and also hoped to learn more about her thoughts of people, because I assumed that when she would be among the Reps, she would be interacting with them and with the votes they cast or wish to cast. I would have liked to learn her opinions that way too. I wanted to make her a Rep already yesterday for the same reasons. I didn't know that she is not going to be around toDay, I would have chosen differently.

Aside from that, you are getting rather paranoid (the second paraghraph). If I wanted to lynch you, I could have done so by myself anyway.

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

My general temper or my overtired temper at 3am to 6am?

Not that, actually, I didn't mean your personal temper

but, well, I don't know what is the word for it in English. Basically the mood of behavior in which you are during the game.

Now... I have re-read the posts of Cel, Rune, Inzil and Wilwa and after considering them, I am thinking of letting Rune be for toDay, also because it anyway does not seem that he would be getting any lynch-support. Now looking at his posts with a bit of distance, what concerns me the most is that he actually does not seem to be too conflict-y, not meddling himself much into the affairs, rather dipping his fingers and staying sort of back, or that's the feeling I get. But I actually became even more interested in seeing him actually vote sometime (depending what the situation is, though, and if he does not make me suspect him more). I do not agree with him on many things, but that is not a problem. I just have a few questionmarks hovering over his motives. That is actually the bigger problem in Celuien's case. She has indeed said very little this far, but still even with her few posts, and mainly her votes, she remains a suspect to me. Then again, she really has not showed this far, in which case I would prefer her to at least respond or something. Inzil is enigmatic, he actually seems rather commited, e.g. his change in suspicion of wilwa after her votes looks genuine, but at points the subjects he focuses on are more questionable. Lastly, wilwa has said some things I would echo, but again some which make me uneasy or asking about her motives, and last of all her votes with the bit of alibistic tone. We'd know a lot more about her if we knew sally's role, but then, guess that will have to wait (and I am not for lynching sally just in order to learn more, although her death would surely be enlightening).

Shall be around for a while yet. This will be a difficult voting in the end, actually.

EDIT: x-ed with Nog, his vote and sally

Eönwë · 09-19-2010, 04:55 PM

Having just read Nerwen's Wilwa post and looked at the voting, I have to say that it's unlikely that my top two suspects are both Elves together. Wilwa's vote put both Lottie and Sally in first place, and though it would make her look really innocent if they both turn out to be Elves, I don't think they would have wanted us to find out that they were both Elves (i.e., by getting them lynched). So basically, unless Wilwa was playing extremely riskily, she and Sally probably aren't Elves together.

Which means that one of my choices probably isn't an Elf. And right now, I think that's more likely to be Sally.

So if nothing really happens soon my votes will probably be for Wilwa.

the phantom · 09-19-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasta

Re (1) - If all this is the case, why did you vote for Legate for representative?

Because, for starters, I don't know that this was what he was trying to do. It's just a theory I wanted to hear him answer. Plus, I didn't think he'd outright stab me in the back even if he is evil. Not his style (as evidenced by my accusation- I see him as being much sneakier). Self-preservation, ya know. Also this is the first chance I've had to fully think and respond to all the Rep votes.

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Originally Posted by Nog

phantom: stop that "I'm the known orc and everyone's having a conspiracy to lynch me" -parade, please.

Sorry Nog, but when someone gets elected who is as good a lock as anyone in the village to vote for you, you tend to look at it closely. And nowhere in that entire post do I tell people that I am "the known Orc", unless of course you are referring to the fact that for my accusation to make sense I would naturally have to be an Orc, but that goes without saying. We all base our suspicions and defenses upon the fact that we ourselves are innocent (and we can't hope for anyone to believe our theories if we aren't first viewed as such). We can't help but do so as that is the only fact we know. So really, your chiding is not at all necessary.

(edit: missing line)

the phantom · 09-19-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasta

Also, all this suspicion of Wilwa has the feel of a bandwagon to it. Especially after Phantom hopped on

I didn't "hop on". I left immediately after the Rep voting was over last night and I've been very busy ever since. Just a few posts up where I posted the vote count- that was the first time I had really taken a look at the Rep votes, and Wilwa's vote stood out to me. And when I examined her lynch vote from yesterday working from a new angle (I was wanting to suspect her after her Rep vote) her lynch vote looked suddenly more suspicious to me.

Yes, I realize that leap may be partly flawed due to the "If you're looking at something already expecting or wanting to find guilt/innocence you WILL find it", but that does not negate the logic of my breakdown of her voting. Yes, in my suspecting of her Rep vote I may be erring on the side of self-importance, but my lynch vote breakdown looks quite good to me.

Folwren · 09-19-2010, 06:32 PM

Never mind.

Shastanis Althreduin · 09-19-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Folwren

Never mind.

You can, but it would take both your votes to make a difference where Sally is concerned.

satansaloser2005 · 09-19-2010, 06:35 PM

I'm here and vaguely conscious. What can Sally do for you all?

Folwren · 09-19-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I'm here and vaguely conscious. What can Sally do for you all?

Forgive your humble...orc....friend...who just doomed you to death...? But only if you're innocent. If you're guilty, don't bother forgiving me.

satansaloser2005 · 09-19-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Folwren

Forgive your humble...orc....friend...who just doomed you to death...? But only if you're innocent. If you're guilty, don't bother forgiving me.

Alas, my lass, I'm not forgiving you either way, at least not right now.

Sorry, loves, I just feel a bit ripped off that I've done my best to participate since Thursday (when my non-participation wasn't even my fault) and now I get killed.

Also, lynch Shasta for me. He's either evil or just a single-minded elf lover deep down.

I'm going back to bed, kthnx. Best of luck to the SoE, only because it will keep my "if I'm lynched as an innocent, the village loses" streak intact.

satansaloser2005 · 09-19-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

You can, but it would take both your votes to make a difference where Sally is concerned.

Yes, dear, but was that what she was asking? I think not.

Shasta is being so bloody single-minded. Why?

ETA: x'd with Foley. Bloody....

Folwren · 09-19-2010, 06:42 PM

Okedoke...well....I've had an exhausting weekend, and I seriously cannot read straight...plus, I'm supposed to be at my brother's house five minutes ago.

But...even before Phantom told me two or three posts ago that Wilwa's vote for me as Rep was odd, I had decided so myself. I haven't had time to look at her other posts. I have read some of them...and I'm getting a bad feeling about her. And I think there is a possibility that she's linked to Sally.

Which brings me to Sally now. I don't trust her. But I didn't in my other game, either. I don't know her playing style well, but it seems she's MUCH more uptight this game than last. I am also basing some of my opinion off of a couple of posts by Greenie (I can't find them at this moment, but she said at least once today that Sally's posts seem elvish to her) where she said she didn't trust Sally.

That being said, I hate this business. I hate it more than I can really express, but from what LITTLE intuition I have (I say little in caps because I've only been here a grand total of ... less than thirty minutes, probably) I really have a bad feeling for Wilwa and Sally. I think Wilwa is covering Sally, and I think they're both potentially guilty.

So if this turns out bad, I'm sorry. Please don't kill me. It's not really fair.

++Sallyx2++

May the Balrog have mercy on our souls.

Cross posted with everything posted on this new page.

Shastanis Althreduin · 09-19-2010, 06:43 PM

Alright, that's a double lynch, then, looks like.

Thanks for coming back even though you said you were going to be gone, Foley.

satansaloser2005 · 09-19-2010, 06:44 PM

Mark this. MARK THIS NOW. Notice how Foley didn't even read before voting? At least not thoroughly? If/When Wilwa/Cel turn(s) out to be evil, remember that.

Folwren · 09-19-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Mark this. MARK THIS NOW. Notice how Foley didn't even read before voting? At least not thoroughly? If/When Wilwa/Cel turn(s) out to be evil, remember that.

*Flushes hot* I did read. Not thoroughly, no, but how the great blazes did you expect me to read thoroughly? HONESTLY? I didn't do this lightly, and I'm sorry. I really am. I'll be especially sorry if you end up innocent, but Sally, I don't trust you, ahd I haven't, not since the beginning of the game, I haven't.

I'm sorry.

I do have to go, though. I'm almost twenty minutes late.

satansaloser2005 · 09-19-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Folwren

*Flushes hot* I did read. Not thoroughly, no, but how the great blazes did you expect me to read thoroughly? HONESTLY? I didn't do this lightly, and I'm sorry. I really am. I'll be especially sorry if you end up innocent, but Sally, I don't trust you, ahd I haven't, not since the beginning of the game, I haven't.

I'm sorry.

I do have to go, though. I'm almost twenty minutes late.

I don't expect you to read all the way through, but you don't instigate a double lynch without really, REALLY good reason. Unless you're evil.

*dies, goes back to the happy land of sleep*

In all honesty, I don't care who wins, as I've not been healthy most of this game. Sorry, but tis true. Thus, my allegiance lies to my record. SoE, eat them all!

Shastanis Althreduin · 09-19-2010, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I don't expect you to read all the way through, but you don't instigate a double lynch without really, REALLY good reason. Unless you're evil.

*dies, goes back to the happy land of sleep*

In all honesty, I don't care who wins, as I've not been healthy most of this game. Sorry, but tis true. Thus, my allegiance lies to my record. SoE, eat them all!

Calm down. Foley specifically said she wasn't going to be here and didn't want to be a rep, she was made one anyway, she did the best she could under the circumstances.

the phantom · 09-19-2010, 06:53 PM

So, in summary, the two ladies who wished to lynch each other are both going to be lynched.

09-19-2010, 02:03 PM	#1
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	REP VOTING DAY 1: Sally-->Phantom Lottie-->Phantom (2) Rune-->Lommie Greenie-->Nerwen Nog-->Izzy Mira-->Phantom (3) Boro-->Wilwa Lommie-->Greenie Steve-->Greenie (2) Dun-->Boro Shasta-->Izzy (2) Legate-->Nerwen (2) Cel-->Foley Phantom-->Cel Nerwen-->Lommie (2) Wilwa-->Lommie (3) Foley-->Cel (2) Izzy-->Wilwa (2) REP VOTING DAY 2: Nerwen-->Shasta Rune-->Steve Green-->Steve (2) Nog-->Legate Steve-->Legate (2) Lommy-->Nog Inzil-->Shasta (2) Wilwa-->Foley Legate-->Foley (2) Shasta-->Nerwen Sally-->Nog (2) Phantom-->Legate (3) ***************************** LYNCH VOTING DAY 1: Lommy-->Lottie (3) Green-->Sally (2) Nerwen-->Sally (3) Nerwen-->Boro (1) Celuien-->Boro (3) Wilwa-->Sally (4) Wilwa-->Lottie (4) Izzy-->Lottie (6) *************************** And now, some observations- (1) I'm not sure I entirely understand the Rep vote of Legate today. From beginning to end of this day he generally seems to believe I am an Orc, and yet he handed his vote to Foley who has attacked no one other than me this game. Not to mention that she didn't put in an appearance yesterday and said she would barely be around today, and so really, how much time does that give her to catch up on reading and change her opinions? I am not trying to be insulting and say that Foley is predictable and a tool to be used (she seems quite independent), but in this specific situation where she was so very very against me yesterday and will have little time to change her views today, I can't help but suspect she's being taken advantage of here. And then when she votes me (if I'm lynched) Legate can act all sad and justified, "See, I was right, he was innocent, and I didn't vote for him," and pretend that he had nothing to do with killing me. (2) Same with Wilwa naturally, who also voted for Foley. From what I've seen she hasn't exactly been after me today. She's been more wishy-washy, sort of the old "I can see your point about how he might not be trustworthy" but then "Oh but this doesn't make him look bad". About the only certain thing I saw from her regarding me is that she didn't want to make me a Rep. But to vote for Foley given her very obvious leanings and time restraints- I've got to think Wilwa actually wants me dead. (3)** If Sally* is innocent, then the lynch voting from yesterday... Celuien* and Green would be the more obvious votes to save Lottie, while Nerwen and Wilwa would be the careful and subtle votes to save Lottie. Green straight up tossed out the second one of the duo (Sally-Lottie), while Celuien seeing a chance to lynch Boro put him into a tie for the lead. Nerwen put Sally into a tie with Lottie and then used her other vote to nudge up Boro (his first vote)- a move much less obvious than tossing two votes onto one of them. Then Wilwa was perhaps the most calculating of all. Had she used both votes on Sally, it still would not have put Lottie out of lynching, as Izzy could've tied them and I believe had stated at that stage that she favored lynching Lottie, not to mention that I was around and had listed Sally (but not Lottie) on my list of people I definitely did not want to lynch, and so Wilwa would have assumed that if I wished to avoid a double lynch I would've lynche Lottie ahead of Sally. Also, giving them each only one vote also kept the door open for the double lynch with Boro, as I had indeed been shopping him as a candidate. Wow... when I think about this and write it out, Wilwa's vote, if she's a SoE, looks downright brilliant given the situation. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

09-19-2010, 02:13 PM	#3
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	phantom: stop that "I'm the known orc and everyone's having a conspiracy to lynch me" -parade, please. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

09-19-2010, 02:50 PM	#6
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	So I have a Glirdanpie visiting me at the moment, but he'll be returning to his secret lair shortly. Once I get back I will be able to contribute more for the rest of the day. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

09-19-2010, 03:10 PM	#8
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	++ Wilwa ++ Mainly because of what I said in #469. In short: Her actions as a decent orc do not make a lot of sense (she said she would prefer lynching Lottie but ended up sharing the votes between Lottie & Sally) - and she sneaked away leaving the stage for the others - possibly elves (an orc W wouldn't have known who Izzy & tp were) - to act on at such a crucial moment of a threeway tie (and only 25 minutes to the DL). If she is an elf her actions make a lot of sense: tactical vote-choice in a desperate situation: she couldn't vote for Boro without looking very suspicious, just trying to save Lottie might backfire as tp would save Sally if he could, and actually just voting Lottie would mean killing a mate. Also skipping away from the last minutes looks like elvish to me, meaning she didn't want to be forced to make the final choice. Just look above how tough the situation would have been. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

09-19-2010, 03:18 PM	#9
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	No one around, so time to home and bed then. All the sense and sensibility to you reps! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

09-19-2010, 02:23 PM	#4
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Also, all this suspicion of Wilwa has the feel of a bandwagon to it. Especially after Phantom hopped on (I was going to say Sally as well but I think she's actually been suspecting the Muffin most of the day). I probably won't be voting her today. Ideally I'd like to lynch Sally, but I don't think Legate and Nogrod are going to go for it, and to beat their five (should they choose to vote together), Eonwe, Folwren, and myself would all have to vote the same way. I think Eonwe was in the "Lottie being an elf makes Sally look better" camp, and it's looking like Folwren may not be here to vote at all, so... Hm. I need to think. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

09-19-2010, 03:19 PM	#10
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	pops in Headache and internet troubles (one seemingly a side effect yet from earlier this week, the other just hateful routers) so I'm going to be gone for a bit. I'm hoping to be back, but certainly don't depend on it, as I can't promise my return. pops out P.S. Nog, go to bed! <3 __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

09-19-2010, 04:55 PM	#12
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Having just read Nerwen's Wilwa post and looked at the voting, I have to say that it's unlikely that my top two suspects are both Elves together. Wilwa's vote put both Lottie and Sally in first place, and though it would make her look really innocent if they both turn out to be Elves, I don't think they would have wanted us to find out that they were both Elves (i.e., by getting them lynched). So basically, unless Wilwa was playing extremely riskily, she and Sally probably aren't Elves together. Which means that one of my choices probably isn't an Elf. And right now, I think that's more likely to be Sally. So if nothing really happens soon my votes will probably be for Wilwa. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

09-19-2010, 06:32 PM	#15
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Never mind. __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

09-19-2010, 06:35 PM	#17
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	I'm here and vaguely conscious. What can Sally do for you all? __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

09-19-2010, 06:42 PM	#21
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Okedoke...well....I've had an exhausting weekend, and I seriously cannot read straight...plus, I'm supposed to be at my brother's house five minutes ago. But...even before Phantom told me two or three posts ago that Wilwa's vote for me as Rep was odd, I had decided so myself. I haven't had time to look at her other posts. I have read some of them...and I'm getting a bad feeling about her. And I think there is a possibility that she's linked to Sally. Which brings me to Sally now. I don't trust her. But I didn't in my other game, either. I don't know her playing style well, but it seems she's MUCH more uptight this game than last. I am also basing some of my opinion off of a couple of posts by Greenie (I can't find them at this moment, but she said at least once today that Sally's posts seem elvish to her) where she said she didn't trust Sally. That being said, I hate this business. I hate it more than I can really express, but from what LITTLE intuition I have (I say little in caps because I've only been here a grand total of ... less than thirty minutes, probably) I really have a bad feeling for Wilwa and Sally. I think Wilwa is covering Sally, and I think they're both potentially guilty. So if this turns out bad, I'm sorry. Please don't kill me. It's not really fair. ++Sallyx2++ May the Balrog have mercy on our souls. Cross posted with everything posted on this new page. __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis Last edited by Folwren; 09-19-2010 at 06:45 PM.

09-19-2010, 06:43 PM	#22
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Alright, that's a double lynch, then, looks like. Thanks for coming back even though you said you were going to be gone, Foley. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

09-19-2010, 06:44 PM	#23
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Mark this. MARK THIS NOW. Notice how Foley didn't even read before voting? At least not thoroughly? If/When Wilwa/Cel turn(s) out to be evil, remember that. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

09-19-2010, 06:53 PM	#27
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	So, in summary, the two ladies who wished to lynch each other are both going to be lynched. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.