WW LXXIX: Fall From Olympus

[Nogrod]

Just going to bed while left the PC open... and I realised I wanted to see the tally. So why not send it to you as well? I think it bears watching...

Foley -> Eonwë
Greenie -> Macalaure
Kath -> Blind Guardian
Lalaith -> Boro
Inzil -> Blind Guardian 2
Nienna -> Eonwë 2
Sally -> Blind Guardian 3
Nogrod -> Nerwen
Wilwa -> Blind Guardian 4

Those with votes have their highest vote bolded...

I really think Wilwa's last one looks suspicious - and Sally's looks like a throwaway...

[Nogrod]

And a fast answer to Nerwen...

I did read your post about Zeus differently, like trying to persuade whoever played Zeus to think he would not win without Hera (and thus without the wolves).

And I would not have called you defensive (or over-defensive) if you'd tried to talk yourself out from that Hades stuff - which if you're innocent would be something you'd probably really have tried to speak yourself out from (and really the lovers need so badly to connect to each other in this game and you're one of the only ones who made any that kind of reference!).

But your reaction was an attack on one person. So trying to persuade people to lynch one person other than you instead of an innocent's reaction of trying to prove your innocense or giving us the whole list of your suspicions lynching one of which would be better. The wolves like to single out one they'd rather get rid off - the one they calculate is the possible one. It would require so much work to come up with many suspicions there would be some grounds for suspecting for someone who knows who the innocents are?

So really Nerwen, I do suspect you.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And I would not have called you defensive (or over-defensive) if you'd tried to talk yourself out from that Hades stuff - which if you're innocent would be something you'd probably really have tried to speak yourself out from

Once again: there's nothing for me to say. Either you believe me that it was just banter, or you don't. Repeating it over and over won't convince you, will it?

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But your reaction was an attack on one person. So trying to persuade people to lynch one person other than you instead of an innocent's reaction of trying to prove your innocense or giving us the whole list of your suspicions lynching one of which would be better.

Now you're just attributing motives to me. That wasn't a "reaction". I pointed out some things Mac did because I thought they were suspicious. Besides, when have you ever seen me make a suspicion-list?

EDIT:X'd since my last post.

[Nogrod]

I seem to be trapped in a vicious circle... going to have a cigarette, going to brush my teeth... while leaving the computer on and just looking after every thing done if there is anything that is interesting... and of course there is... Gah!

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Once again: there's nothing for me to say. Either you believe me that it was just banter, or you don't. Repeating it over and over won't convince you, will it?

No. You're right. But if you gave it even an effort, if you protested even a bit more I could see the innocent frustration in there. Now I only see the calculated avoidance of the thing once you have stated your position once - as to not look too over-defensive... I do not claim to know how you think but I've been wolf many times enough to notice certain kind of behaviours that suggest to me the way I myself act in certain situations...

Now you're just attributing motives to me. That wasn't a "reaction". I pointed out some things Mac did because I thought they were suspicious. Besides, when have you ever seen me make a suspicion-list?

I was not calling for a list. I was just thinking that if you were an innocent, you probably had some ideas as to who the wolves are or anyway who were suspicious to you - I know all are not cabable of that but I do know you are - but you just jumped on one, like a wolf would do seeing things were going badly. As that is the easiest way, trying to find another scapegoat rather than giving multiple choices which are more insecure others might go for... or are right in the beginning (which is the concern an innocent has).

Also you seem to be avoiding some of the questions I made... like the fact that some people (especially Hades!) really need to try to establish a connection and you were one of the only ones a trial for that could be read out from. Another one being Eonwë, our most likely cursed villager. And really I don't buy your explanation of trying to think for the good of the village while lovers would play over the good of the village when it was a question of Zeus' alliance after Hera's death. And don't say you didn't intend that as we were clearly talking about the innocent-lover's alignment after the death of his/her mate.

So you're my suspicion number one, still.


On another note. I will be looking very closely on the BG -voters tomorrow if alive and she turns out innocent. I think I have never played with her, but this looks like a "collective avoiding the responsibility" and / or "trying to get through where the fence is the lowest", really. It's clear she has a thing or two to learn, but to jump on her that way is just... bad, well looking guilty trying to find an easy vote.

Especially for Wilwa - who should know better and who tried to talk on behalf of Nerwenas well...


x'd with a few, again...

[Nogrod]

Foley -> Eonwë
Greenie -> Macalaure
Kath -> Blind Guardian
Lalaith -> Boro
Inzil -> Blind Guardian 2
Nienna -> Eonwë 2
Sally -> Blind Guardian 3
Nogrod -> Nerwen
Wilwa -> Blind Guardian 4
Mira of Dol Guldur -> Blind Guardian 5
Rikae -> the phantom

Mira, you're really making yourself to flash out here as well!

[the phantom]

I am back and working on catching up with all the action...