WW LXXVII: The Metamorphs of Wolf-562-e

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

What I said only applies to the Intelligence agents. The two secret roles are free to reveal if they choose.

Oh, ok, good to know. We'll have to be careful about anyone who comes out with made up roles then. As well, a Metamorph could come out as the Seer, but since they have to give up a wolf they'd either need to give up one of their own or blame an innocent (which would give them away within a Day). So, I like this rule a lot, it balances it out the game, but also will save us from all the confussion that false reveals can cause.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

[...] save us from all the confussion that false reveals can cause.

*is amused*

OK, point taken, and also about the balance thing. But as interesting as a discussion of Fleet Regulations (aka rules & game mechanics) can be, shouldn't we get down to finding the Morphs? I'd still like Eomer to explain his 'obvious' suspicion, if indeed that was supposed to be serious.

By the way, according to the personnel files, our two newer crewmembers are Ms Guardian and Mr Noia, I think. (And I'm Mr Pitchwife, for those I haven't met before; but Pitch will do.)

[Blind Guardian]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

*is amused*

OK, point taken, and also about the balance thing. But as interesting as a discussion of Fleet Regulations (aka rules & game mechanics) can be, shouldn't we get down to finding the Morphs? I'd still like Eomer to explain his 'obvious' suspicion, if indeed that was supposed to be serious.

By the way, according to the personnel files, our two newer crewmembers are Ms Guardian and Mr Noia, I think. (And I'm Mr Pitchwife, for those I haven't met before; but Pitch will do.)

Yes. I am Ms Guardian. Not marryed so can't say Mrs

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

I think it's perfectly obvious Pitchwife. I don't even blame the cabin fever. String him/her* up!

I don't think it is "perfectly obvious" to anyone but you.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Yes sir, Tech Izzy's already working on it. I'll check our supply of emergency beacons; hope those haven't been tampered with as well. Too bad we don't carry any hyperspace courier drones - too expensive for a ship of our class, I suppose.

No, we aren't equipped with the drones. Only the capital ships have them.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

In endgames, yes. But otherwise it keeps xem from doing their proper job, because the wolves will know not to touch them (unless feeling suicidal).

I agree with this, but at any rate the question of the agents' revealing, Telepath excepted, is an academic one at this point.

Originally Posted by Paranoia

*coughs* Eomer, weren't you in charge of making sure that a situation like this did *not* occur? I further find baseless attacks on Ms. Guardian, as loopy as she is, unwarranted. Please refrain in the future from attacking others without some flimsy reasoning at the least will be met with harshly in the future. And if Ms. Guardian is indeed a metamorph, I get the feeling we'll know before too much longer.

Good to hear from our Second Officer. Why though, do you say we shall know of Tactical Officer Guardian's true nature soon? The only one accusing her is Security Officer Eomer, and for whatever reason, he doesn't seem too inclined to further explain himself.

Originally Posted by Paranoia

*Also, Rikae must be metamorph scum, hiding under a convenient guise of being a stowaway. *eyetwitch*

It would have been a clever way of getting a Metamorph on board, but it seems a tad too obvious, with no other evidence to go on.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Oh my goodness! You're right! *jumps and hits her head on a pipe* Erm, we don't have running water anymore. *tries to patch pipe while being drenched by water*

Perhaps the technician, Shasta will repair it when he arrives. And maybe not break anything else in the process.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Now, there's a clue here that none of you have noticed yet. Who stands most to gain with Captain McNerwen dead? Her second-in-command, Zil.

I have, of course, assumed command of the ship (per Terran Galactic Fleet Command Regulation # 421.3) upon the death of Captain McNerwen. And no one should be above suspicion here, including me. But it would seem a rather clumsy plan that had me killing the captain and succeeding her in command.

And you suspect our Android Tech Wilwa, do you? For seeming forced? Hmm.

[Blind Guardian]

Wait, the seer/telepath can reveal when ever? Wha? I thought Nerwen said no one could, regardless. Until, of course, they are threatened with death by Wolfie...

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

Wait, the seer/telepath can reveal when ever? Wha? I thought Nerwen said no one could, regardless. Until, of course, they are threatened with death by Wolfie...

The seer can only reveal if they've dreamed of a wolf.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I don't think it is "perfectly obvious" to anyone but you.

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I have, of course, assumed command of the ship (per Terran Galactic Fleet Command Regulation # 421.3) upon the death of Captain McNerwen. And no one should be above suspicion here, including me. But it would seem a rather clumsy plan that had me killing the captain and succeeding her in command.

And you suspect our Android Tech Wilwa, do you? For seeming forced? Hmm.

Eomer's suspicion does seem a bit wacky, but I don't think a wolf would draw attention to themselves like that. In my mind, a wolf would have at least said he was joking when he fell under suspicion for it.

I don't suspect Zil, either. He seems innocent to me. This is, of course, gut feeling - there's little to go on Day 1.

EDIT: xed with BeiGe.

[Paranoia]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I don't think it is
Good to hear from our Second Officer. Why though, do you say we shall know of Tactical Officer Guardian's true nature soon? The only one accusing her is Security Officer Eomer, and for whatever reason, he doesn't seem too inclined to further explain himself.



It would have been a clever way of getting a Metamorph on board, but it seems a tad too obvious, with no other evidence to go on.

Recall the last time we had a friendly game of werewolf on the ship; the Tactical Officer was quite keen to self destruct during that game, and I bet a metamorph version of her couldn't resist the same urges to act like a plum fool.

Originally Posted by Eormer

Bah! Sally concocts the perfect way to stay alive for a day. No-one will vote her now but it's still pretty suspicious.

++PARANOIA

Just sort of showed up and left and didn't contribute anything other than demanding I cease my openly meaningless case against Blind Guardian. A bit easy, methinks.

Nice omgus there. The only reason I disappeared was because I didn't have much time earlier; I'm generally not around until the evening. I honestly do agree with you on Sally though; experience dictates using a throwaway vote is always a bad idea. The fact Sally voted for herself so she "wouldn't accidentally contribute to any innocent deaths" smacks of... oh what's the word here? It feels as if she is wasting her vote as to not draw suspicion for it later (as in to avoid the usual cloud of suspicion and whatnot that surrounds innocent lynches) and to discourage a bandwagon on her.

Speaking of BG and self destructing.

Originally Posted by Blind Metamorph

Most innocent:
BeiGe :P


Relatively Innocent:
Lottie!
Shasta
Pitchie
Zil
Rikae

Relatively Squeamish about:
Sally (subject to sudden violent change in placement, as always with Sally)
Noia

Rather Suspicious Of:
Eomer
Wilwa

Submarineish (Not A Clue):
WWinty

Keepandir of Dol Mira (I like the name)
Izzy

Not only did BG then proceed to vote for Lottie, she also then proceeded to put suspicion onto Eomer, someone who's early suspicions she was laughing off as just being crazy, making her putting Eomer in the suspicious pile rather well.. suspect.

This is making me eat my words earlier, but, based on this and waiting on BG's upcoming roleflip, I'm starting to think the Security Officer is innocent afterall.

++Blind Guardian

Harmless (earthling):
Paranoia

Mostly Harmless(Probable Earthlings):
Shasta - One of the first few to notice BG's glaring slip.
IZZY - Ditto.

Don't Panic (about them, anyway.):
Eomer (waiting on BG to flip.)
Lottie (could go in the panic category soon.)

Panic!:
Sally. (See above.)
BG. (voted for her for reasons above; obviously is going to go in here.)

Everyone else: Not much of a read on them at the moment, unfortunately.



Crossed a whole bunch of times with Shasta, Izzy, Lottie, BG, and Willy? Willwuffins? Willowail? Whatevah.

[Nerwen]

4 minutes.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Paranoia

Nice omgus there. The only reason I disappeared was because I didn't have much time earlier; I'm generally not around until the evening. I honestly do agree with you on Sally though; experience dictates using a throwaway vote is always a bad idea. The fact Sally voted for herself so she "wouldn't accidentally contribute to any innocent deaths" smacks of... oh what's the word here? It feels as if she is wasting her vote as to not draw suspicion for it later (as in to avoid the usual cloud of suspicion and whatnot that surrounds innocent lynches) and to discourage a bandwagon on her.

This makes perfect sense in theory, except for the fact that Sally doesn't play by common sense rules. You'll get used to her eventually.

Also, Wilwa? That still doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. Sorry, dear, but you still look suspicious to me.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

The point, BG, is that you voted for Lottie after clearly labeling her in your list as "innocentish". Even if you did make a mistake and put her in the wrong category, the category you said you meant to put her in doesn't even exist on Lottie's list.

[Inziladun]

++Blind Guardian

[Pitchwife]

Back on the bridge after a visit to the galley. At least the foodvends are still working (as of now, that is, so don't let Chief Lottie near 'em!)

Speaking of which,

Originally Posted by Chief Lottie

Now, there's a clue here that none of you have noticed yet. Who stands most to gain with Captain McNerwen dead? Her second-in-command, Zil.

Come on! As if we didn't know that he liked being her Number One so much that he's already turned down three offers by Terran Command to give him a ship of his own...

Originally Posted by the above

Just a gut feeling, really, but Vanilwuffin is the only suspicion I've got so far.

That's the problem with discussing game mechanics: it can be useful, giving people something to talk about on Day 1, and sometimes is indeed necessary, but it's also something to hide behind if you're trying to look helpful but are reluctant to actually suspect somebody.
So much in general. As for wilwa, don't know... Though it seems to me that a Morph has more reason to be happy about the Agents' deep conditioning than anybody else. I'd like to see what she's got to say when she's back, if I manage to stay awake that long.

Originally Posted by still the above

Eomer's suspicion does seem a bit wacky, but I don't think a wolf would draw attention to themselves like that. In my mind, a wolf would have at least said he was joking when he fell under suspicion for it.

I see your point, and his unexplained persistence in the matter is an enigma to me. Anyway, much as I'd appreciate something more substantial than one-liners from him, I don't want to focus on him all Day. Besides, some of our other comrades have yet to speak up.

[Pitchwife]

Speaking of speaking up, Ms Guardian, what do you have to say to Eomer's accusation?

[Blind Guardian]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Speaking of speaking up, Ms Guardian, what do you have to say to Eomer's accusation?

I think she/he's crazy. Why would you choose someone new to be a wolf twice in a row? Big coincidence yeah? Besides, this game I know I'm not a wolf so I don't have to pretend. Thus, I can ignore :P

edit: I'm still here, just going to walk my dog and do the dishes.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

I think she/he's crazy. Why would you choose someone new to be a wolf twice in a row? Big coincidence yeah? Besides, this game I know I'm not a wolf so I don't have to pretend. Thus, I can ignore :P

edit: I'm still here, just going to walk my dog and do the dishes.

1. He.
2. For all we know, roles were assigned randomly rather than chosen. So big coincidence yes, impossible no. And I'm not saying you're a wolf, I'm just trying to get you to talk.
3. Fine, ignore Eomer, but there's some other people around who have posted a word or two. What do you think of them? Any idea who might be morphish?
4. First an underage stowaway, now a dog smuggled on board. This ship is becoming rather crowded. What happened to intruder alerts?

[Isabellkya]

Sally..No suspicions on most people? Would that not mean you have some kind of suspicion on the others?

[Isabellkya]

BG. According to your #69 post....

Relatively Innocent:
Lottie!
Shasta
Pitchie
Zil
Rikae

..

Rather Suspicious Of:
Eomer
Wilwa


X'd with Loslote & BG

[Rikae]

Aw, man. False reveals are my favorite. Can't I just have one tiny little false reveal? Puhleez, Ms. Dead Captain? *whines* I don't want to ruin my record of revealing as a gifted in every single game I play.



Well, actually, I do have one of the secret roles. I'm the suicide bomber. If anyone votes for me, I explode and take the whole ship with me. Ha!

Hm, alrighty then. Better start tracking down the bad guys. I suspect Sally, because she has the potential to talk too much, and Eomer, because he talks too little. I suspect Wilwa for saying the hunter should never reveal, because I firmly believe xe is quite often more powerful when xe does.
I strongly suspect whoever jumps on me for suspecting the above people for flimsy reasons.
I even more strongly suspect whoever jumps on said person for suspecting me for such a flimsy reason.

That's all for now.

Edit: X'd with Pitch.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Well, actually, I do have one of the secret roles. I'm the suicide bomber. If anyone votes for me, I explode and take the whole ship with me. Ha!

Interesting. What happens if you get Night-killed? Do you implode?

Originally Posted by Rikae

I suspect Wilwa for saying the hunter should never reveal, because I firmly believe xe is quite often more powerful when xe does.

In endgames, yes. But otherwise it keeps xem from doing their proper job, because the wolves will know not to touch them (unless feeling suicidal).

Originally Posted by Rikae

I strongly suspect whoever jumps on me for suspecting the above people for flimsy reasons.
I even more strongly suspect whoever jumps on said person for suspecting me for such a flimsy reason.

Well, this being a rather quiet ship at the moment, there aren't such a lot of non-flimsy reasons yet. Talk, people, talk!

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Cabin Boy Rikae

I'm the suicide bomber. If anyone votes for me, I explode and take the whole ship with me. Ha!

Ha ha.

Originally Posted by Pitch

Well, this being a rather quiet ship at the moment, there aren't such a lot of non-flimsy reasons yet. Talk, people, talk!

But, but that's what makes Day 1s oh so much fun.

Uh, I have to go to work now. I'm not going to be back for like 9 hours. Sorry. But I will definitely be voting!

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Well, actually, I do have one of the secret roles. I'm the suicide bomber. If anyone votes for me, I explode and take the whole ship with me. Ha!

You're obviously lying. The security guards, before boarding, asked each one of us "Are you a terrorist?" so they've clearly got those bases covered.

Although I can't seem to locate my luggage...

[Paranoia]

A rather large man strolls onto the bridge, rage barely contained on his face. Taking in the friendly banter his right eye twitches for a full hour before he finally begins to speak.

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*coughs* Eomer, weren't you in charge of making sure that a situation like this did *not* occur? I further find baseless attacks on Ms. Guardian, as loopy as she is, unwarranted. Please refrain in the future from attacking others without some flimsy reasoning at the least will be met with harshly in the future. And if Ms. Guardian is indeed a metamorph, I get the feeling we'll know before too much longer.



































Also, Rikae must be metamorph scum, hiding under a convenient guise of being a stowaway. *eyetwitch*

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Paranoia

Eomer, weren't you in charge of making sure that a situation like this did *not* occur? I further find baseless attacks on Ms. Guardian, as loopy as she is, unwarranted. Please refrain in the future from attacking others without some flimsy reasoning at the least will be met with harshly in the future. And if Ms. Guardian is indeed a metamorph, I get the feeling we'll know before too much longer.

I shall do no such thing. My cabin fever ensures that I will not sit by while people idly speak of subjects other than the lynching of people.

String. Her. Up.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Fascinating analysis so far, Chief Lottie, if a little verbose. A Funadalkn of Alpha Goombae VI probably would have summed up our situation with the single word Mourshput!.

But in case you haven't noticed it, being engrossed in testing the machinery, not only is the engine broke, but the Captain and Bones - er, Doctor Morsul I mean - have been brutally murdered, and according to that holographic message the Captain recorded before her death (I suppose you've all seen that?), we've been infiltrated by three Metamorph saboteurs posing as crewmembers. Any comments on that?

Oh my goodness! You're right! *jumps and hits her head on a pipe* Erm, we don't have running water anymore. *tries to patch pipe while being drenched by water*

Originally Posted by Inziladun

The engines must be repaired also, Chief Engineer Lottie. Odd how that problem suddenly occurred out of nowhere. Any explanations for the cause of the engine issues?

Magic, of course.


Now, there's a clue here that none of you have noticed yet. Who stands most to gain with Captain McNerwen dead? Her second-in-command, Zil.

In other, non made-up news, I'm not feeling oh-so-very thrilled with Vanilwuffin. Her posts all seem forced. Particularly this:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Oh, ok, good to know. We'll have to be careful about anyone who comes out with made up roles then. As well, a Metamorph could come out as the Seer, but since they have to give up a wolf they'd either need to give up one of their own or blame an innocent (which would give them away within a Day). So, I like this rule a lot, it balances it out the game, but also will save us from all the confussion that false reveals can cause.

And this:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Ha ha.



But, but that's what makes Day 1s oh so much fun.

Uh, I have to go to work now. I'm not going to be back for like 9 hours. Sorry. But I will definitely be voting!

Just a gut feeling, really, but Vanilwuffin is the only suspicion I've got so far.