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Urwen · 05-10-2010, 06:02 AM

I can think of another...

Nen Lalaith ran straight by Lalaith's grave.One day,river god decided to take her under his wing.He made her a maia.

And a millenia later she chose a husband-a master of all living things...

There you are-Lalaith is Goldberry!

Aganzir · 05-10-2010, 06:42 AM

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And a millenia later she chose a husband-a master of all living things...

There you are-Lalaith is Goldberry!

It's a bit far-fetched to say Goldberry chose Tom... Quite the contrary, it could be argued Tom took her by force (can't post any quotes though since I don't have The Adventures of Tom Bombadil here). Just saying.

Nerwen · 05-10-2010, 06:54 AM

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I can think of another...

Nen Lalaith ran straight by Lalaith's grave.One day,river god decided to take her under his wing.He made her a maia.

And a millenia later she chose a husband-a master of all living things...

There you are-Lalaith is Goldberry!

What river god? Why is he able to transform dead human children into beings of a completely different order?

Besides, this in no way explains how Lalaith is to achieve any of her goals. Or have you given up on them?

Urwen · 05-10-2010, 07:19 AM

River god is Ulmo.That answers your other question.

And as for her plans...haven't you realised that she transformed her geese into ponies when she got married?

Nerwen · 05-10-2010, 07:47 AM

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River god is Ulmo.That answers your other question.

This one?

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Why is he able to transform dead human children into beings of a completely different order?

No, it doesn't. Since when does Ulmo have that power? (Clue: he doesn't.)

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And as for her plans...haven't you realised that she transformed her geese into ponies when she got married?

And this helped her kill Glaurung, save her brother and sister etc... how?

Eorl of Rohan · 05-10-2010, 08:15 AM

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There you are-Lalaith is Goldberry!

I'll probably be struck down by a thunder from the heavens for speaking such blasphemies, but I actually like this idea. Impossible, but pretty.
I don't get what her fixation is with giant mutant space geese from outer space that bends the law of time and physics, though.

Nerwen · 05-10-2010, 09:39 AM

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I don't get what her fixation is with giant mutant space geese from outer space that bends the law of time and physics, though.

You are behind the times. They are now giant mutant space ponies.

Urwen · 05-10-2010, 10:21 AM

You know,I think you should know that Ulmo and his bros and sises work for the One. Therefore,they all have power to transform...

Nerwen · 05-10-2010, 10:39 AM

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You know,I think you should know that Ulmo and his bros and sises work for the One. Therefore,they all have power to transform...

...dead human kiddies into Maiar? Uh-uh. Doesn't fit into Tolkien's cosmology at all.

This works no better than your endowing Lalaith with superhuman strength: you can't win by just making up abilities for the characters.

Besides, you still haven't said how any of this would have helped Lalaithberry kill Glaurung.

Loslote · 05-10-2010, 07:25 PM

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What river god? Why is he able to transform dead human children into beings of a completely different order?

Besides, this in no way explains how Lalaith is to achieve any of her goals. Or have you given up on them?

Actually, there is a precedent. Ulmo did turn Elwing into a seagull briefly. Hey, there's a thought! Maybe Lalaith is one of the geese!

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It's a bit far-fetched to say Goldberry chose Tom... Quite the contrary, it could be argued Tom took her by force (can't post any quotes though since I don't have The Adventures of Tom Bombadil here). Just saying.

Maybe Lalaith is very manipulative and just made Bombadil think he'd chosen her. Or she's quirky.

Nerwen · 05-11-2010, 01:12 AM

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Actually, there is a precedent. Ulmo did turn Elwing into a seagull briefly. Hey, there's a thought! Maybe Lalaith is one of the geese!

Yes, there's a number of precedents for shapeshifting– that's not the same thing.

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Maybe Lalaith is very manipulative and just made Bombadil think he'd chosen her. Or she's quirky.

Well, she was all set to marry Beleg at the age of three...

05-10-2010, 06:02 AM	#1
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	I can think of another... Nen Lalaith ran straight by Lalaith's grave.One day,river god decided to take her under his wing.He made her a maia. And a millenia later she chose a husband-a master of all living things... There you are-Lalaith is Goldberry! __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2010, 07:19 AM	#4
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	River god is Ulmo.That answers your other question. And as for her plans...haven't you realised that she transformed her geese into ponies when she got married? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2010, 10:21 AM	#8
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	You know,I think you should know that Ulmo and his bros and sises work for the One. Therefore,they all have power to transform... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.