WWLXX: At the Prison of Ice

[Boromir88]

The fact that Boro was one of them and apparently tried to discourage me from checking actually makes me feel somewhat better about him– because I don't think Borowolf would do anything as silly as that.~Nerwen

I should explain that I think there is merit in looking at the only piece of concrete info we have.

At that time, I thought you were over-hyping the amount of people who jumped on with Nog's full frontal assault. Plus, since at that time you just left it at "we should go look at this" I was thinking a wolf-Nerwen was trying to give us a red herring. Since you have further anaylzed it though, I'll just add my 2 cents.

I had already admitted to pointing out Roa's mistake, and acknowledging what Nog was talking about. That's why I gave it so much consideration. But you should also realize that after confirming to Nog that I knew what he was talking about, I directly told him that it was weak and I was in no way going to vote for Roa based on a numbers slip.

We can't blame Nog or anyone else for pointing it out, and thinking it was intentional. I mean first, anyone who knew the correct number would have noticed it, and especially in Nienna's first post she said "4 wolves" too.

Neither of them pursued this, though. I had an impression that people jumped on the "case" much more than they actually did, I think because Nogrod was making so much noise about it.

But I still think that Eomer's looks evil, he agreed with Nog that it was intentional, but left it at that.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Oh really? Somehow I think my tell is not the tell you think it is. And if you're planning to lynch me just to find out that I'm a goodie I don't think I like your reasoning. I'd personally rather save people that are probably innocent in my eyes than lynch them just to see what they are. Or maybe I'm crazy and that's how the New Werewolf is played. Heck if I know. (Of course I'm mostly teasing here because I don't expect him to campaign to kill me at this stage, but if he does make up a big case against me later with little cause I'll be quite concerned.)

I didn't say I was planning to lynch you, and neither did I say you had to be lynched for me to notice the sign. I said you had to be in danger of getting lynched, and if this happens, than I will be your knight in shining armor any day. However, since you are not in danger of getting lynched, this tell hasn't happened yet, therefor you're still in the limbo phase of "I don't know."

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Glad to see I'm not the only one who when in a rush looks only for my name

I would bow down to anyone and admit their awesomeness if they say they have the time to read everything (on that day) + post + vote.

To wilwa: I've been searching for a new rivalry since Menel's departure. If you want to start re-hashing old fights, bring it, because you know the score so far is Wild Eye 1 - Dark Monarch = Zero

All I have on Lommy right now is to say her Boro-radar is still in perfect working condition. But, I'm surprised you're really not being so flippy-floppy, have I really become that predictable to you or are you a more confident wolf?

[Nogrod]

OMG... I just got to page 8 thinking there would be only a few posts and that I could then join in... but a whole page more!!!

So it will take some time as I'm a slow reader...

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Or Sally has hacked into Mnemo's account and is busy having a conversation with herself.

Seriously– Mnemo has seemed quite unlike herself toDay, and I was just thinking, "Now who does she remind me of... oh, I know... SALLY!"

EDIT:X'd with Sally (or possibly Mnemosally).

Sally: Mnemo, would you like to hatch a plan?
Mnemo: Absolutely. What plan?
Sally: *smothers Mnemo, takes her laptop and talks to herself*
Mnemo: *muffled* That's not what I had in mind.

Or we could be the gifteds and we planned this out last Night.

OR we're just fun like that.

Your choice.

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

Morsul, Sally operates under a completely different set of rules from the rest of us (and besides, I actually know her), so I always read her under different standards.

Inziladun, the coin toss itself weren't political, but the fact that I'd narrowed it down to you and Pitch certainly was because I wanted to vote someone (on top of all the vibishness) who could compete with Nog and Roa.

Nerwen, should I take my sudden Sallyosity as a compliment or an insult?

In order: Exactly. Fair enough, but not happy with it. Oi!


Here and have caught up *pets Nog* but need a nap so I'll be back soon-ish.

[Boromir88]

Eomer-lysis since I haven't considered any concrete thoughts about him at all yet, and he is someone who shouldn't let slip. I could say that same for Mnemo, haven't put much thought towards her since the very beginning of Day 1, but Eomer has the fewer posts and I have to leave soon. Sorry, Mnemo, you'll have to be postponed to another day.

Eomer:
#75 defends me and tells Nerwen sometimes stating the obvious is necessary. Tells Nog he thought Roa's slip was intentional, he's not sure what it tells him, and after this I don't think he says anything else on it. Thinks Mac is tricky, Morsul is too slippery, and doesn't like Bes's post towards me.
#105 says Roa and Nog could very well both be innocents stoking the flames for reaction or too stubborn to see they're both wrong. He plays mediator and says he won't concentrate on those two anymore.
#113 responds and disagrees with Roa, about part of Nog's reasons being her argument with me.
#119, thinks Inzil's first list was pointless since most of the discussion prior was in character. Says trom was only in character. Disagrees with Mac about whether I would have dropped the point sooner or not as a wolf. Says Lommy's list is just a big block of text and Morsul's suspicion/vote for Mac was "interesting."
#121 agrees with Roa that it was odd for Nog to say his case on her involved me.
#123 jests with Greenie and says he's gone most of the day not arguing with Lommy.
#129 says Mnemo's referenced three times she believes Nog and Roa are innocent
#133 lists of who he won't vote for and who he might.
#144 vote tally
#146 votes Mnemo for shadiness and not wanting to add another name to the vote-getters. Says he's gambling, so "no hard feelings" to Mnemo.
His other 2 posts are jests with Shasta.

Several posts where Eomer looks pretty light-hearted and relaxed, but I've come to see him as that type of player, but I also think he's a rather strong, and very aggressive wolf-hunter. He definitely gets into your face, and so far I haven't been seeing that. Possibly, because it's early on, but I'm not familiar with an Eomer who cares how "soon" it is before he starts getting after suspected wolves.

Most of my suspicions are on the fact that he's not following through, or committing much towards anything. He directly points out noticing what Nog did, but leaves it as feeling neutral. He says Roa and Nog are both probably innocent, tries to mediate, but then suspects Mnemo for saying she believes they are both innocent. Granted, he's got a point about the number of times she mentioned it is strange, but even his vote looks forced.

What I mean is in #133 he has his list of who could get his vote, that's at 8:05. This list includes Inzil, Mnemo, Pitch, Brinn, Mac, Lommy, and Nerwen, then in #146 (8:33 - roughly half an hour later) he votes Mnemo and says he's gambling with it. Not a lot of time elapsed between those 2 posts, and since Eomer hasn't given us much conviction towards anyone, the vote just looks like it was cast for whoever.

The other suspicious thing is in #144 he gives a vote tally, there was one vote each for Mac, Nog, Inzil, Nerwen, and Mnemo, then in #146 he says a reason for Mnemo:

There are a number of shady characters around here, and I don't want to add a new person to the voting list.

The problem is the other 4 people with 1-vote were all on Eomer's possible voting list in #133...so why say that about your vote for Mnemo?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Boro quoted me here:

"There are a number of shady characters around here, and I don't want to add a new person to the voting list."

Originally Posted by Boromir88

The problem is the other 4 people with 1-vote were all on Eomer's possible voting list in #133...so why say that about your vote for Mnemo?

Actually, Boro, Nogrod had received a vote too; he wasn't on my list.

And also on my list were Pitch, Brinn and Lommy. Surely, you see my point that I didn't want to vote for one of them?

I effectively gave myself a shortlist of 4 and picked one.

[Brinniel]

I have to go to class in about 10 minutes, so I'm voting now. And since no better candidates have come forward:

++Loslote

No, she has not been back to explain her vote, and she probably won't return toDay. But even if she does return, I have doubts there will be much explaining considering in the posts before her vote she kept saying she suspects Lommy, but doesn't have a reason for it. She'd probably call it a gut feeling or something like that, but at this point we're beyond gut feelings and unreasoned suspicion. With eight pages of posts, surely everyone should have at least some reason to suspect somebody. With perhaps the exception of those majorly lacking in time. Which I don't think is the case with Loslote, because then I don't think she would've even bothered to summarise Lommy's post. I still don't understand why that summary is even there, if there is no conclusion made from it...or if there is, she's not sharing it which is silly since the conclusion is more important than the summary itself.

If I had time, I'd respond to Sally's analysis of me since I find some points rather flawed, but unfortunately I really must go, so it'll have to wait until toMorrow. Btw dear, while Sally can be rhymed with, Stan is such a better name for rhyming. For example, if you were named Stan, I could write a poem about Stan and the Saucepan Man. So there.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I would bow down to anyone and admit their awesomeness if they say they have the time to read everything (on that day) + post + vote.

Expecting a bow now...

I did it!

Hmph, then I have to think...

[Pitchwife]

Back and reading.

[Thinlómien]

Why's everybody so jumpy? Mnemo, for one, as Nerwen pointed out. And Sally too? Who's really been threatening to lynch her? And Mnemo has got about as many defenders as accusers.

Mnemo and Sally's little exchange is interesting. Awkward, sort of, and makes me raise my eyebrows. Not sure what to make of it, though. Sally seems innocent since she continues that joke a bit over the top (I'm not sure if she'd dare to do that as a wolf) but Mnemo is a bit more worrying case. I mean, the carefulness in which she states that Sally can or can not answer is slightly weird...

Morsul, you seem more and more innocent to me all the time, but I will change my opinion if you keep posting such horribly long quotes!

Sally's case on Brinn is quite interesting and I can see it having some merit. Although, if Brinn seems suspicious to me, she's most probably innocent because when she's guilty I never suspect her...

Nienna, I was sort of torn about Nog and Roa, because at first it looked so fabricated (because although they always quarrell, it's normally not this rash and blind) and then not so much... I wanted to give them more time to get a better picture of them, although back by the end of the Day I was thinking that everybody should "get more time" as much as them so I considered voting Nogrod.

Originally Posted by Nienna

She is being wishy/washy with her suspicions and it seems like trying very hard to not look like a wolf.

No, if I really was a wolf I would be thinking what kind of impression I'm giving and truth be told the whole thing hasn't crossed my mind until now...

Originally Posted by Boro

All I have on Lommy right now is to say her Boro-radar is still in perfect working condition. But, I'm surprised you're really not being so flippy-floppy, have I really become that predictable to you or are you a more confident wolf?

Predictable? Nope. If you remember, last time we played I was quite sure you were a wolf, you got lynched and you weren't one. This time I just feel pretty confident about your innocence, I'm not certain I'm right, but it's generally easier for me to read you than many others.

edit: xed with whole page 9

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod about Mac

That's only 16/19...

Fair catch - it is often the wolves who suspect the least people, or rather, "not-suspect" the most people.

Originally Posted by Greenie

You're a wolf. Satisfied?

Better than Mnemo's un-quoteworthy try...

Originally Posted by Greenie about Mnemo

YesterDay she seemed too calculated and nice. ToDay, she's indeed "gone off the rails" (though that sounds a bit nasty, sorry Mnemo), but I can't decide if it makes her look better or worse. More confusing, at least. So: is she a wolf who realised that being reasonable and measured and agreeable gets her suspected and thus decided to change strategies?

Nicely phrased.

Originally Posted by Boro

It must be a Finnish thing. *Bows and admits the Finns awesomeness*

Exactly, I did it too.


edit: xed with Pitch and Sha-sha-sha-shasta

[Thinlómien]

Ooh, the next jumpy player around. Soon we'll have four ie all the wolves.


edit: xed with everybody

[Nienna]

Shasta

YesterDay

46. Summarized the Day: Boro v. Roa on ‘Reasonableness’

47. In character but the deadline is weird for him

68. Calls Morsul wishy-washy and fence sitting

137. Points against Nog for being definitive in his suspicion against Roa, point against Eomer for subtly backing Nog up, point for Roa for her reaction to Nog, point against Nog for wild accusations on flimsy evidence, point for Roa… not sure why, point for Nog for giving a more accurate representation of what Boro said, 3 points against Nog for bringing up something her shouldn’t really bring up anyway, point against Roa for the Nog-Cobbler theory because it’s a stretch. Nog has now cleared up some ambiguities and he’d rather not vote for him, he won’t vote Roa but would be willing to vote Eomer.

This is an interesting post… I think it is a good analysis of the Nog/Roa thing giving them each criticisms

142-3. Clarifying for Nog

171. Votes for Zil, would rather not see Mac or Mnemo go

I voted for him for the same reason so I cannot fault it.


ToDay:

220. Isn’t really buying Boro’s ‘this isn’t how I play as a wolf’ act, didn’t vote for Zil because Mac suggested it, defends not throwing away his vote

Seems reasonable (do with that what you will)

234. Notices a weird phrasing by Brinn, Newen’s vote was mostly out of nowhere, at the last moment, and would have sealed Mac’s fate. He doesn’t trust Nerwen

I disagree with the point about Brinn’s phrasing as it made perfect sense to me. I do think that Nerwen’s vote was a little dodgy.

256. Agrees that his point against Brinn might be a bit of a stretch

In Summary: I’m not sure why he was ringing alarm bells for me… he seems to be making reasonable points, his thing about Brinn was a stretch but he knows that… I’m going to just have to keep watching him.

Edit: Crossed.

[wilwarin538]

Wow, that took me a long time. So some thoughts:

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Good news is I feel pretty good about trom being innocent, despite her vote.

Here's the deal, I sort of have this reputation for being ruthless, slippery SOB...erm wolf. Shasta, I know can certainly fill you in about some down-right evil stories, but we can take a trip down memory lane another time. That's my reputation, people really don't like to trust me, eventhough everything is telling them that they can, because we never liked to get fooled.

I typically find myself spending an abnormal amount of time trying to get everyone to trust me when I'm innocent, and thus the openness. So is the way of the world though, and I'm not sure why I even do it, because it is an impossible thing.

Also, believe as a wolf I am more sly than directly pointing out "I'd do this as a wolf, and since I didn't, I'm not" trick, because I don't hand out my wolf-secrets. Mith, Lommy, Rikae (and apparently Mac now) to name a few have picked up on some of the unintentional signs, but there's nothing I hand out.

To refrain from a spiel, I'll leave it at this...I'm innocent. Believe it or not, that's your choice, and if and when I die are you willing to bet eating a toaster when my innocence is proven?

Dislike. Everyone has the potential to act differently every game, some people may have little things that they do all the time, but no matter what strategies are subject to change. The more games you play the more your strategies change. So saying "this is not how I act as a wolf" and using that as your argument really does not make me think you're innocent, cause since you know how you may act as a wolf of course you'll act differently when you're a wolf again. It just isn't right.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I'm kind of grudging Legate for making this "humane decision" event. Because now we don't have any dead ie cleared people. And no wolf-kill tracks to follow (although this will be one of those painful games where the kills are more confusing due to the lack of a seer). So it's kind of good Roa had to leave (although that was sad ) because that means we have some information.

I agree, having the votes is great and avoiding the chance of lynching an innocent is good, but having those two deaths Day 2 always helps, even though it sucks when they're innocents, or worse gifteds. My thinking aswell is that now we're not going to go after Inzil for a while, since even though he didn't die people may think "oh, well lets go for someone else today" and then he could be a wolf this whole time and we could be letting him get by. Does that make sense? I mean I'm not saying "lets get Inzil and finish what we started" cause I don't really suspect him, but it just feels so weird to me.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

To wilwa: I've been searching for a new rivalry since Menel's departure. If you want to start re-hashing old fights, bring it, because you know the score so far is Wild Eye 1 - Dark Monarch = Zero

Negative, baddies totally won that game! Dark Monarch = 1, Wild Eye= -50.


Morsul is making me uneasy, he gives all these super long quotes and then like a 1 sentence comment, doesn't seem like much. So keeping my eye on him. Nothing really concrete though I guess.

Eomer is under my radar, which is weird.

Mnemo is acting a bit different then yesterday, but I still don't really feel suspicious of her.

Nog, Mac and Nerwen I'm all good with so far.

Shasta I'm iffy about, a few things seem off (his comment about Brinn's "slip of the tongue" is a little weird), but not really enough to truly suspect.

My vote might be going to Boro, I don't really know yet.

I desperetly need to study for a bit, but I'll come back for about the last 40 minutes before DL, which is in 1.5 hours right???

x'ed with a bunches

[Morsul the Dark]

Nerwen Why must you be so darn reasonable

I'm looking back over her posts and her vote for Mnem seems logical but.... She's so hard to read... Also doesn't help I always feel sweet talked by her...

Hmm... Mac seems too polite and doesn't fight back enough for me to call wolf Today...

Mnem and Sally are at this particular point most bothersome but Sally's just being Sally it seems Mnem on the other hand holds different people to different standards but seems not so much wolfish as a new playmate for Sally...

Shasta- Still waiting on your rational for voting Inzil I looked over your posts didn't find Anything about him.

Shasta's a top contender... unless I see something else I know where my votes going.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Unless I overlooked something, the only one to give the counting-theory any merit outside of Nogrod is Eomer.

Boro said:But I still think that Eomer's looks evil, he agreed with Nog that it was intentional, but left it at that.

I had forgotten that, and what Eomer said about it left no doubt of Roa's simply making a mistake. But then he backed off from actually accusing her.

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Aye, Nogrod, soon as I saw Roa's counting-mistake I remarked: "intentional". Not sure what it means, though. I wouldn't be quick to lynch Roa because she brings a lot to the table in terms of discussion.

Possibly a wolf wanting to fan some flames a bit, but not wanting his hands to get too dirty.
Then again, that's not conclusive of anything. Eomer does set off some warning bells though because of that, and a general feeling I have from the way he appears to be trying to lie low.

x/d with several-fixed the second quote to indicate it was Boro's

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Ice to see you all.



As for laying low, some of us have work. You'll mostly see me make a post at the very start of the day, and then appear for the final couple of hours.

Well, I'll answer a couple of points against me but I won't spend too much time on it. Too old, too cold, to get worked up. Look at the quotation over Roa's counting:

'Aye, Nogrod, soon as I saw Roa's counting-mistake I remarked: "intentional" '

Now, perhaps you're interpreting this differently to me, but all I did was, soon as I saw Roa's post, literally say out loud: "Ah ha! Intentional miscount!" A split-second reaction that I thought I'd share. Believe it or not but I didn't actually commit to thinking Roa was up to something, hence why I didn't pursue it and actively stated that I thought Roa was likely innocent. I can see why you think that's fanning flames but oh well.

Boro, you mentioned that I was in the substantial group of people speaking against your 'reason/rationality warning' but I wasn't.

Short post to follow, with one other point for Boromir.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Boro, you mentioned that I was in the substantial group of people speaking against your 'reason/rationality warning' but I wasn't.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't a list of substantial people who disagreed/spoke out against, if it's the post I'm thinking you're thinking (It's past 2:00 which means I have to leave in like 5 minutes) than I was telling Nerwen all the people who commented on it. And I recall that you did say 2 things in general. First, that you agreed with the principle, and secondly to Mac disagreeing that I wouldn't have dropped it easily if I was a wolf.

I want to give Eomer a benefit of having more time to answer, so will vote who I wanted to yesterday...

++Inzil

For the reasons I was going to mention yesterday, but you can check the first post of today. And I haven't seen Inzil say anything to me to convince me otherwise.

[Mnemosyne]

All right, Morsul, I see how you could read those statements that way. Maybe.

For the record, although Sally and I totally would do something like that, she doesn't have my password and since it's based on something she'll never read I doubt she could guess it.

I, on the other hand, have hers...

(Seriously, dahling, you probably ought to change that. For all you know I could have been flirting with Legate as you for the past five months!)




...There, is that motivating enough, Lom?

[Pitchwife]

Mnemo, suspect me all you want, but this is weak. So it's suspicious that I post in small spread-out chunks, right (among other things, but those have been commented on by others in the meantime)? I'm sure you can do better.
I'll tell you why I do that (and I've been doing it in the last two games or so). I'm a really slow writer, because I think with my fingers on the keyboard, and a bit of a perfectionist too, and I've realized that trying to make comprehensive lists or lengthy posts of any substance and follow an agitated discussion at the same time is just hopeless for me - either I lose sight of what's going on at same time, or I never get anything posted. So I'm trying to do it this way - post a chunk, read on, go back, post another chunk, etc. as they come. And I intend to go on with it, if you don't mind.
And now I'd rather start thinking about who to vote toDay.

[Morsul the Dark]

Sorry Lommy I just prefer my arguments in context

And Nienna I saw that quote but to me it just says 'm voting Zil because I'm not voting the others... And he doesn't mention any qualms with zil before that

[Morsul the Dark]

Votes... Voters
Lommy... Loslote not really a reason given
Boro... Trom bad feeling boo's too open
Pitch... Mnem only one with "concrete evidence"
Mnem... Nerwen Reasons already stated
Loslote... Brinn No better candidates
ZIl.. Boro giving Eomer more time

Lommy-1
Boro-1
Pitch-1
Mnem-1
Loslote-1
Zil-1

And I agree with pitch that post doesn't explain anything as far as I can tell...

[Nogrod]

Well just two general comments first...

Looking at the number of grammatical hair-splitting one would think this is a cruise for humanists and not biologists.

There was an odd amount of voting yesterDay where people suspected two others and then decided to vote for the one they suspected less by arguments...


Mac: I'm not suspecting you that heavily (I think you were only the fourth on my list). But your seeming need to defend yourself all the time looks a bit eyebrow-raising as I don't think you're the number one candidate to be lynched toDay anyway.

Originally Posted by Mac

Careful not to suspect too many?

Well, yes... or what do you say of this?

Originally Posted by Mac

Too many people look innocent to me right now. I don't want to vote Boro, Eomer, Lottie, Roa, Bes, Shasta, Greenie, and trom, and I would like to avoid voting Mnemo, Morsul, Brinn, Pitch, Nienna, and Nerwen.

Sally and Wilwa aren't newbies to me, but apart from those, they are the two who haven't provided much. Don't like voting them for that, of course, but I would rather do that than vote any of the above.

That's only 16/19...

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Can someone accuse me or get me otherwise very involved? Because I feel strangely "unattached" from this game, I'm reading it as if I wasn't playing it myself. Hmph.

You're a wolf. Satisfied?

Originally Posted by Mac

I was starting to wonder whether Lommy could be evil, but now her suspicions are almost the same as mine, which makes it difficult... unless my suspicions are completely off.

Why exactly would a Lommywolf sharing your suspicions automatically mean your suspicions are off? True, it would require a Lommywolf who has some wolf-on-wolf -suspicions, but then, we've seen that before.

Originally Posted by Nerwen, about Mnemo

I don't know what to think. Yesterday she seemed fine, and in fact I was very surprised when she became a lynch-candidate. ToDay she's apparently gone off the rails.

I don't know what to think, either. YesterDay she seemed too calculated and nice. ToDay, she's indeed "gone off the rails" (though that sounds a bit nasty, sorry Mnemo), but I can't decide if it makes her look better or worse. More confusing, at least. So: is she a wolf who realised that being reasonable and measured and agreeable gets her suspected and thus decided to change strategies? Or an ordo who's just having more fun toDay that yesterDay? Eurgh I don't know. She's still featuring in the top of my suspicion list.

Originally Posted by Boro

Possibly Shasta or Greenie, I don't like the way they both jumped on Morsul's comments about placing less faith in votes. As well as both jumping on Nogrod going after Roa's slip.

I don't think I jumped on Morsul - at least I didn't intend to - I disagreed with his point. As for Nogrod, his jumping on Roa's "slip" was downright illogical and weird so of course it drew my attention and I confess I might have jumped a bit.

Originally Posted by Boro

I would bow down to anyone and admit their awesomeness if they say they have the time to read everything (on that day) + post + vote.

A bow, please, sir. I do that every day.


EDIT: x-ed with Zil

[Nienna]

Morsul: Check out 171 for Shasta's vote reasoning... I'm analyzing him and just got to that one it might help your confusion.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Expecting a bow now...

I did it!

Hmph, then I have to think...

Originally Posted by A Little Green

A bow, please, sir. I do that every day.

It must be a Finnish thing. *Bows and admits the Finns awesomeness*

So, now that you've read everything, how much have you managed to maintain?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Morsul -

Page 6, post 220, middle of the post.

Originally Posted by Myself

To answer Mac - I wasn't "sure" that you and Mnemo were innocent, but to my mind there was less "evidence" against either than you than there was against Inzil, who was the only other possible lynch. I didn't vote for him because you suggested it.

X'd with Pitch.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Nienna

Morsul: Check out 171 for Shasta's vote reasoning... I'm analyzing him and just got to that one it might help your confusion.

You mean this? :

Originally Posted by Shasta #171

I don't see anything on either Mnemo or Mac and I'd rather neither went.
++Inziladun
Not where I expected my vote to have to go, at all, but I don't see any more support for Nogrod, and none at all for Eomer.

Explaining why (or rather mentioning that) he didn't want to vote some others, but where's the reason for the vote he actually made?

[Nienna]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

You mean this? :

Explaining why (or rather mentioning that) he didn't want to vote some others, but where's the reason for the vote he actually made?

I believe he was voting to save Mac and Mnemo not necessarily to kill Zil... does that make sense? ...and Shasta feel free to correct me as I'm speaking about something that might be untrue.

[A Little Green]

LEANING INNOCENT:

Boromir88 - I still have a good feeling about him.

Eomer - Seems generally innocentish and makes a lot of sense. He gives a rather calculated impression, though, and I haven't played with him often enough to know if that's a normal state of things or not.

Brinn - Leaning good.

Macalaure - Good vibes.

Thinlómien - Seems her usual flip-floppy self.


NEITHER INNOCENT NOR GUILTY, OR BOTH:

Inziladun - I don't know if it's about him being slippery or me being negligent and careless, but I can't get a read on him even though he contributes a fair deal.

Morsul - No idea.

Pitchwife - My gut says innocent, my logic says "too agreeable, too contributing without rubbing anyone the wrong way, baaaaad". I just realised (and again, may be partly due to my own unfocused reading) that while I remember him posting actively, I can't recall a single thing he's said. It isn't that he hasn't said anything, it's that he hasn't said stuff that would have been contradictory or wrong-feeling or weird or different enough to stick to my memory.

Nienna - Securely under my radar.

Nogrod - Eurgh. He was very very confusing yesterDay. His explanation about his behaviour towards Roa explained some of it. ToDay he has seemed more in his senses. I'll be watching him, but he's off the hook for now.

sally - No idea whatsoever.

Nerwen - I agree with Morsul that she's too darn reasonable. No idea what her role might be.

Bes - Under my radar.

Shasta - No idea, for some reason or another.

wilwa - Too little to go on.

tromkehra - Likewise.


WARY OF:

Mnemosyne - Argh. I think I babbled enough about her in my previous post, but let's shorten it here for clarity's sake: yesterDay she was too agreeable and calculated, toDay she seems more than a bit off.

Loslote - Confuses me a lot. Her suspicions are completely weird, but I'm trying to decide whether it's a sign of wolvery or not.

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I'm rather worried about the size of my no idea -section. I'd believe, somehow, that at this point of the game I'd have more suspicions, but I don't. I don't know why exactly that is. It's either that my wolf-spotting sucks in this game or we have wolves who are too good for me. It looks as if I'm going to vote Mnemo again. Her, at least, I'm suspicious of.


EDIT: eurgh x-ed with a host... since my previous post, actually.

[Morsul the Dark]

Lommy-1
Boro-1
Pitch-1
Mnem-1
Loslote-1
Zil-1
Nerwen-1

What if eveyone gets one vote? then what?

[wilwarin538]

For my own thinking purposes I'm re-posting the votes:
Lommy-1
Boro-1
Pitch-1
Mnem-2
Loslote-1
Zil-1
Nerwen-1

uhmm....I'm definitely gonna vote for someone on this list, cause there's no way I'm bringing a number 8 into the mix. Lommy hasn't stood out to me, Boro makes me uneasy so maybe him, Pitch too though after a quick skim through he was iffy too, Mnemo I'm fairly ok with, Lottie haven't really payed attention too, Zil I don't even know why people are suspicious of him, and Nerwen I'm good with.

So between Boro and Pitch I guess, though I'm kinda leaning towards Boro....I'm gonna wait a bit longer since I can be around at DL.

[Inziladun]

Yes, another long quote.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Okay, I'll have to vote way early. Deadline problems again...and I have no idea who to vote for.

Inzil and Mac don't look furry to me, so I don't think I'll be voting for them.

Morsul is suspicious looking, but then, I always suspect him, mostly because I can't follow his logic.

I've never played with Eomer before, but he seems to be making sense, so I don't think I'd vote for him today unless something extreme happens.

I can't get a read on Boro, despite the 'issue' yesterDay - or maybe because of it.

Brinn is another one I always suspect. This game I think she's good, which worries me...gah. Enough paranoia.

Pitchie looks suspicious, but I don't have anything solid yet. I think I will look more closely at him.

Mnemo doesn't seem furry, but I'm not anywheres near certain, and am not crossing her off the list anytime soon.

I haven't gotten much read on Nienna yet.

Nogrod is the most suspicious yet...but even he doesn't scream wolf...more like whisper it.

Not getting much from Sally, either.

Lommy seems suspicious, but I have no reason for it.

Nerwen looks good. At least, I haven't seen anything that doesn't seem genuine yet.

Bes is new. I don't know his style yet, but he does seem a tad bit off. I'll look at him later, probably not toDay.

I don't think Shasta's a wolf...but I can't quite tell.

Wilwa hasn't been around much due to RL. Understandable.

Haven't picked much up on Greenie yet, either.

Tromkehra's new, too. Can't tell very much, but his (her?) repeated posing in role kind of rankles...but not in a particularly furry way...

That turned into a list. I wasn't actually expecting that. I do lists a lot, don't I?

EDIT: xed with Shasta, Morsul, and Mnemo

So four people were 'suspicious' to her then: Morsul, who she said always looked that way; Pitch, (but nothing 'solid'); Nog, the 'most suspicious yet'; and Lommy (but 'no reason).

She noted Bes looked 'off'. In her next post, 227, Nog, Lommy and Bes looked the most 'wolvish'. Oddly, in 223 she had allowed that Bes was new, and she didn't know his style.

It looks like her suspicion of Nog was based on the way he worded a certain post, and when advised he was not a native English-speaker, she seems to have dismissed him.

And then there was the vote for Lommy with no reason given.

Conclusion: Lottie doesn't look all that good at the moment, especially the way Bes suddenly went from looking a little 'off' (with the allowance that he was new and she didn't know him), to one of her top suspects.

x'd with a host

[satansaloser2005]

Question: Is Bes in fact a guy? 'Cause I don't know. I thought she was....well, a she, but that's because his/her name was Bes. *shrugs* No idea.


EDIT: Never mind, Bes is a guy. Wow. When I'm wrong....