TIG LXIX: Meeting at the House of Usher

[Roa_Aoife]

Oh, is that how it is?

--Nerwen

++Fea

If we're going to lose anyway, then so are you.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Fea

The village lynches Sauce and I use my retribution vote to kill myself. Two 'innocents' down, the wolves win.

I'm sure he'd do the same for me.

Actually, after Roa's vote, I might just go for her. Or I might not ...

It makes no difference to us Roa. We were likely to lose toDay or toNight anyway, so it makes no odds to us.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Yes, really, it was either watch myself die, or watch myself die with glee.

Would you really deny me glee?

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Nog

So you're on the dark side already then?

No, not particularly so. We just want to be left alone. We don't care who wins.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Which is to say, whoever offers us a sweeter deal might sway us.

Or not.

We'd be happy snogging off in a corner and leaving all y'all to your own fate.

Well... sort of.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

No, not particularly so. We just want to be left alone. We don't care who wins.

You've kind of made that clear already...

But I must say I am amazed by Roa's reaction to the situation...

I mean if we bag a wolf toDay and the wolves don't get one of you we will be at 3 + 2 + 4 (= 3 + 6 countingwise) toMorrow! And getting one wolf would greatly enhance our "deductive capabilities" as there would be leads to read into toMorrow.

Hey ranger: look at these dynamics when choosing who to guard the coming Night! There could be a reason to guard one of the cuties if we bag a wolf. (sorry if I voice self-evident facts)

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Oh, is that how it is?

--Nerwen

++Fea

If we're going to lose anyway, then so are you.

Now THAT looks suspicious. Did I not just say no vote splitting? This is the opposite of helpful!

Add Roa to my list of probably wolves, bringing the total up to: Roa and McCaber. Still missing two.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Lottie

Now THAT looks suspicious.

Actually, I think that it may have been cast more out of annoyance.

Still, whichever team she is on, she has just reduced their chance of winning.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

Actually, I think that it may have been cast more out of annoyance.

Still, whichever team she is on, she has just reduced their chance of winning.

Exactly. It was the opposite of helpful, and Roa is usually at least slightly more logical than that.

[Nogrod]

Well then...

Of Greenie-voters there's only Roa left for me to think about. Her reaction was pretty weird but as Spm said, it might have been an act of frustration as well. She does have better maths and a keener eye to be honest... but then again she was in a hurry. Hard to say. I don't like her vote-change (or her original vote to be sure) at all but I'm not sure she should be lynched for them. Needs to think.

Looking back at Fea voters it seems it's actually only Nerwen who voted for her after she had turned out very suspicious-looking (what were you after anyway there Fea, it just beats me - but maybe we can discuss it in the post-game discussion?). So basically looking at Pitchie's and Inzil's votes there are no too well made arguments behind them. But other than that they have looked very reasonable to me.

(Why am I talking in this tone? Well I thought that those who voted for Fea were quite innocentish to my eye as Fea was so suspicious-looking yesterDay but then I looked back and saw that the two voted for Fea before the final show started).

Lottie and Brinn voted for McCaber and I can't blame them on that. Actually I could join them - or whoever - to do that toDay. His little entry early on the Day making an excuse / apology looked downright horrible. I asked him to come forwards and say something more but it has had no effect so far.

Sally then? I have no idea and she said she would be RL-busy already beforehand. Probably not a wolf? Or a very unfair winner if it comes to that... to the point of discrediting that win then.

But we should get it right toDay - as Spm so nicely elucidates... get it right toDay and the lovers are (maybe) with us, get it wrong and they will side with the baddies ending the game... So what do you think people?

[Loslote]

I think that, unless something else dramatic happens before DL, I'm only going to vote for Roa or McCaber. I see no strong reason why anyone else could be a wolf. And there's too much at stake to risk losing it to a weak reasoned vote.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Loslote

I think that, unless something else dramatic happens before DL, I'm only going to vote for Roa or McCaber. I see no strong reason why anyone else could be a wolf. And there's too much at stake to risk losing it to a weak reasoned vote.

McCaber has probably earned a vote just by submarine activity. It could be for RL reasons, but I don't think he's ever indicated that. Why Roa, Lottie?
And Nog, I voted Fea for two reasons: first, she was the best candidate I had at the time. Second, I decided to vote her early and watch her reaction. All that about Hakon's dream made me decide against retracting.

[Nogrod]

A process of elimination then...

Fea and Spm - out of the consideration as it is possible we lynch a wolf toDay and they can end up helping us (with their numbers at least).

Nerwen - the voice of reason and acute spotter of things. She would be a dangerous wolf but at the moment I think we can't afford to lose her for a non-existent (speculative "if she was then it would be bad") suspicion like that.

Brinn - Basically same as Nerwen. I wouldn't wish to put our future into "just trying" her either.

Lottie - Her anguish over the situation feels real.

Sally - Said she would be busy and has been a kind of too unconcerned to be a wolf?


Pitch & Inzil: Are still flying under my radar and that's bad. They have been very reasonable and easy... maybe too uncontroversial indeed. I'm afraid one of them will be a wolf in the end just looking at the numbers. But I have no idea which one. And I would not like to make a blind check with them either (and Pitchie is away anyway the whole Day so it would be kind of unfair).

Roa - I see I have been avoiding her thus far - thinking myself I can always do it the next Day if alive - but now it seems I need to take a stance on her. Hmm... Her vote looks either like a speedy act of frustration or a calculated "washing of her hands" act. I don't like it either way. As an innocent she should have looked for a possibility of lynching a wolf and not go into the retaliatory mode like that.

McCaber - By far the most suspicious person around. Just look at his posting toDay... or anyDay thus far.

[Nienna]

*grabs popcorn*

[Mirandir]

*pulls up a seat next to Nienna*

[Nerwen]

Well, that was an eye-opener, and no mistake.

About the Lovers: they haven't actually said they'll side with the wolves. They've said they can if they want to.

Thus, Roa's voting Fea is rather precipitous.

But not as much as her voting me! What was that about?
EDIT:X'd since Fea.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

But not as much as her voting me! What was that about?

Actually, a good point. No one else suspected you. What could that be except for a vote-splitter? Roa is rapidly looking more and more suspicious to me.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Noggie

Hey ranger: look at these dynamics when choosing who to guard the coming Night! There could be a reason to guard one of the cuties if we bag a wolf. (sorry if I voice self-evident facts)

A fair point. I think that it really comes down to whether you lynch a Wolf or an Innocent toDay. If you lynch a Wolf, the Nog is right here. If you lynch an Innocent, then the Wolves can leave us be and grab a win toMorrow.

So, you see. Your destiny is still in your own hands (or keyboard), whatever you may be.

[Loslote]

*seriously considers bashing SPAM and Fea over the head*

*decides it wouldn't be very helpful*

So where is everyone?? The whole "choose who to vote carefully so we don't end up splitting the vote" idea won't work if we don't discuss it!