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Old 10-19-2009, 10:33 AM   #1
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*sigh* I just realized that we have no way of knowing who the wolves attacked. I don't know why they wouldn't attack Pitch, but then, I don't know why they wouldn't kill the real ranger, either. As it stands, assuming Pitch hasn't found another wolf, I think we should take care of them toDay.

There goes my happy moment...
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:05 AM   #2
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:04 PM   #3
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*sigh* I just realized that we have no way of knowing who the wolves attacked. I don't know why they wouldn't attack Pitch, but then, I don't know why they wouldn't kill the real ranger, either. As it stands, assuming Pitch hasn't found another wolf, I think we should take care of them toDay.
I wish we could know who the wolves went for, as that could well give us some clues. I too am very surprised Pitch didn't get it last Night. They sure are taking an awful risk leaving him around. But is it newbie inexperience, or veteran cunning?
At least we get a dream from him, and that can only be a good thing.
I too think it's time to settle the ranger question. Actually, it was time yesterDay.

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I too think it's time to settle the ranger question. Actually, it was time yesterDay.
Hmm, well, do we really want to do it yet, after the fateful save last Night? I mean, of course the Wolves now know that their target would be unprotected next Night, but still, don't we want to give it a Day yet? I mean, there is still almost the same number of us like yesterDay. Personally I am willing to give it one more Day to try to find a Wolf elsewhere, though I can understand the reasons for dealing with the problem now. Yet, for the sake of clarity, I would keep the Rangers around as long as Pitchwife lives. Because the Wolves may out of stupidity or other reasons still keep him alive, it is perhaps a 1% chance that they will do it, but once we lynch the Rangers, it is clear that he will go the following Night (and in worse case, we will lynch our Ranger and lose one Day with it).

And Roa, it was this mid-late yesterDay's post of mine (you can click the link to read it full, the part I had in mind was this):
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Well, that's once again one thing I have been thinking of now. Sort of, it would really serve well to SpM if he had managed to "save" Loslote for all the game by his only vote. Though, on the other hand, it really is not that much like SpM to vote a fellow Wolf on Day 1, and also, there is still time to reconsider it. I do not think I would vote for her just as yet, in any case.

Okay, but apart from those two reconsiderings,
I have included also the last line (which was opening another part of my post), as it relates to it. "Reconsidering" is what I just did in the paragraph above this. So from this point on, Loslote was no longer 100% (or 90%, as it was) innocent for me.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:36 PM   #5
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My plan worked. Pitchwife let us hope you had a good dream last night since I can no longer protect you. The truth is on night two I protected Pitchwife. I realized that I could have not protected him and he still would have lived. I decided to reveal in order to make the wolves think I was going to protect him that third night. In reality I protected myself in case they decided to try and kill me. Last night I protected Pitchwife. The wolves went for him. If you lynch me today you will lose your seer tonight and find out who a wolf is. I have to reveal my plan here since most likely I will get lynched today or Pitchwife killed tonight. I cannot trick the wolves into thinking I did not protect Pitchwife last night since they know they attacked Pitchwife and he was protected. Goodbye my villagers.
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My plan worked. Pitchwife let us hope you had a good dream last night since I can no longer protect you. The truth is on night two I protected Pitchwife. I realized that I could have not protected him and he still would have lived. I decided to reveal in order to make the wolves think I was going to protect him that third night. In reality I protected myself in case they decided to try and kill me. Last night I protected Pitchwife. The wolves went for him. If you lynch me today you will lose your seer tonight and find out who a wolf is. I have to reveal my plan here since most likely I will get lynched today or Pitchwife killed tonight. I cannot trick the wolves into thinking I did not protect Pitchwife last night since they know they attacked Pitchwife and he was protected. Goodbye my villagers.
Hmm, well, nothing much more than I expected. Of course. Now let's see what wilwa says.

I am really inclined to keep the Rangers on ice for yet another Day...

(On ice? Somebody said "on ice"? Poor Lake!)
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:51 PM   #7
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:03 PM   #8
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Way to go ranger!

Sadly we may be lynching you...

But as there was no kill last Night we should actually consider Legate's suggestion of waiting one more Day with it even if I'm not sure it's the best policy we have... Let's think about it (myself included).

And Pitchie's dream will tell us something.

A few thoughts on the Loslote-wagon to come in a moment...
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:08 PM   #9
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I'm horribly busy today with work and school today.

So are we going to assume the wolves went after the Seer? Why? The wolves could have gone after anyone and considering they didn't try to kill Pitch before it could be entirely possible that they went for someone else.

Legate, what else do you suspect me for? I see for my comment on Day 1 about SPM, other things that you don't even cite, and my vote for Hakon who I've suspected since Day 1 and have stated reasons for suspecting? I honestly don't believe he's the Ranger at all, and considering his post toDay I don't like it that much more either. It's easy for a WolfRanger to explain away a missed kill by claiming to have been protecting the Seer.

Anyway, I'm going back to reading a defense of poetry now.

Edit: Oh, x-posted with Pitch and Nog.
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:25 PM   #10
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Hakon, if you truly pulled off such a complicated bluff, it's very much appreciated.
The only problem with what you say is that usually, the ranger cannot protect xerself. I just checked the Admin Thread, however, and found that McCaber's description of the roles doesn't explicitly exclude that possibility. Maybe some Mod clarification would be in order here - otherwise, you may just be desperately trying to talk yourself out of the hangman's noose, for all I can tell. So:

McCaber, can the Priest protect xerself?
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Legate, what else do you suspect me for? I see for my comment on Day 1 about SPM, other things that you don't even cite, and my vote for Hakon who I've suspected since Day 1 and have stated reasons for suspecting? I honestly don't believe he's the Ranger at all, and considering his post toDay I don't like it that much more either. It's easy for a WolfRanger to explain away a missed kill by claiming to have been protecting the Seer.
Hm, actually, now I have at last managed to get myself to properly re-read your posts once again, and I start finding you less suspicious than I thought. I guess from large part, it was a kind of feeling during the game. Aside from that, there were issues like your non-voting at some points, and then the things you mentioned, although many of them are fairly recent. I think mainly the thing was that you seemed to me the most logical player to pick the Night kills which have been picked, and basically the fact that by elimination method, you remained as the one who seemed yet suspicious enough for me. Alongside Nerwen. This sort of shifts my focus on her now. (That means, I should also go through her posts.)
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:45 PM   #12
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Loslote got lynched by four votes.

Hakon -> wilwa
Loslote -> Brinn
Crayon -> Inzil
wilwa -> Brinn 2
Roa -> Nerwen
Lari -> Hakon
Inzil -> Lottie
Pitch -> Lottie
Brinn -> Lottie
Legate -> Lari
Nogrod -> Lottie 4
Nerwen -> Lari 2

(the last three votes were more or less claimed crossposts...)

Of Lottie-lynchers only Inzil and Brinn are unknowns.

First thing:
two of the Lottie-voters were innocent, it is possible a third - or a fourth one - was innocent as well.

Because of the...

Second thing:
As it is highly probable that either Hakon or Wilwa is a wolf, then looking at the last votes there was no difference in the outcome, whether Lottie or Lari got killed (as Lari was not herself involved in the last voyes). So a wolf among those last voters had no special agenda as to whom to vote as it could not have been a case of protecting a mate.

From that follows, that the wolf's decision must have been based on other reasons than who gets lynched ie. how would that vote make her/him look.

Which brings us to the...

Third thing:
The chance of getting Lari lynched at the last minute was a small one indeed - so a safe place for a last minute-voter wolf?

But we must also remember a...

Fourth thing:
As voting Lottie doesn't prove one a wolf it doesn't prove one innocent either. Inzil might have made a fairly safe vote starting the whole thing after lots of people had suspected her. If Brinn is a wolf she must praise Lottie for giving her such an understandable reason to vote her...

And let's not forget either that...

Fifth thing:
Lari voted for Hakon which was both counter-productive and odd. Would a wolf do that? And Roa went basically on a crusade against Nerwen downplaying anything she had to say for her defence. Would she be that assertive as a wolf... no doubt about that. Would she be that assertive as an ordo... no doubt about that either...


So I ended up in a stalemate.

Let me chew these for a moment...


EDIT: X'd with a lot... great, people around!
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:07 PM   #13
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He also has a healthy appetite for human sacrifice. Alas for innocent Lottie! I now deeply regret going after her yesterDay, pursuing the wrong track like I often do when unenlightened by supernatural guidance.
But now for toDay's business. Thanks to the protective prayers of our true Priest, my dreams were undisturbed last Night, and the insight I gained is...

*drumroll*



Sorry for being so theatrical - I know you're all very curious, but I'd like to wait a little until both our Priest claimants have had their say.
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