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Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-27-2009, 10:49 AM

Come on, people, is it really so scary to try to answer my riddles?

This one is really not that hard, it's not that the answer would be "Aredhel and Borondir's grandfather" or anything like that. It's easy.

Rumil · 09-27-2009, 02:10 PM

Hi Legate,

still pondering I'm sad to say.

I'm obviously out of practice with your twisted thinking

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too many ideas, none of which entirely fit!

Pitchwife · 09-27-2009, 02:52 PM

Same here. I've got several ideas that would fit part of the riddle, but none that fits all, and most of them founder on the cliff of the last two verses (especially the 'never speek, never meet' thing).

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-27-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Same here. I've got several ideas that would fit part of the riddle, but none that fits all, and most of them founder on the cliff of the last two verses (especially the 'never speek, never meet' thing).

Okay, be careful at least with the "never speak". It is true, but I can imagine that people can easily forget that it is so, or make a mistake. But if you have something that you think almost fits, better ask. Though I think if you knew the right answer, you would know that it is the right one - at least it should not be a problem to think of what all the parts refer to, once you had it.

Rumil · 09-27-2009, 03:51 PM

Hmm Legate,

does 'never speak, never meet' mean just 'are never seen speaking or meeting in the books' or 'never ever spoke or met'?

For example there are some characters that you can infer must have spoken together in the past (or would do so in the future) but don't have an on-page conversation. Would they count?

Still stumped!!!

Morsul the Dark · 09-27-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumil

Hmm Legate,

does 'never speak, never meet' mean just 'are never seen speaking or meeting in the books' or 'never ever spoke or met'?

For example there are some characters that you can infer must have spoken together in the past (or would do so in the future) but don't have an on-page conversation. Would they count?

Still stumped!!!

I was thinking the same thing...

I mean Boromir and Faramir REALLY fit well but they obviously met... but we never see them speak

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-28-2009, 01:26 AM

Oh no, no. Of course if it's clear that some characters have spoken to each other, like that Boromir-Faramir example, of course I would count it as if those two DID speak to each other. Use your common sense, there's no bluff in the riddle that would deny common logic. The two I have in mind really didn't, neither in the books nor any other time, only there is one subtle "but" in the "never speak". But that's just in case that everything else would fit and this one seemed a bit unfitting to you. But overall, no, Me and He never met and never spoke to each other.

Mnemosyne · 09-28-2009, 11:01 AM

I'm currently thinking something involving Aragorn, Arvedui, and Malbeth, but it works better if "we" equals "me" and "other" and I can't quite figure out how "she" would fit in (the very fact that there's a specific woman involved makes this a lot harder!).

09-27-2009, 10:49 AM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Come on, people, is it really so scary to try to answer my riddles? This one is really not that hard, it's not that the answer would be "Aredhel and Borondir's grandfather" or anything like that. It's easy. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

09-27-2009, 02:10 PM	#2
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	Hi Legate, still pondering I'm sad to say. I'm obviously out of practice with your twisted thinking , too many ideas, none of which entirely fit! __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

09-27-2009, 02:52 PM	#3
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Same here. I've got several ideas that would fit part of the riddle, but none that fits all, and most of them founder on the cliff of the last two verses (especially the 'never speek, never meet' thing). __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

09-27-2009, 03:51 PM	#5
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	Hmm Legate, does 'never speak, never meet' mean just 'are never seen speaking or meeting in the books' or 'never ever spoke or met'? For example there are some characters that you can infer must have spoken together in the past (or would do so in the future) but don't have an on-page conversation. Would they count? Still stumped!!! __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

09-28-2009, 01:26 AM	#7
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Oh no, no. Of course if it's clear that some characters have spoken to each other, like that Boromir-Faramir example, of course I would count it as if those two DID speak to each other. Use your common sense, there's no bluff in the riddle that would deny common logic. The two I have in mind really didn't, neither in the books nor any other time, only there is one subtle "but" in the "never speak". But that's just in case that everything else would fit and this one seemed a bit unfitting to you. But overall, no, Me and He never met and never spoke to each other. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

09-28-2009, 11:01 AM	#8
Mnemosyne Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Between the past and the future Posts: 1,159	I'm currently thinking something involving Aragorn, Arvedui, and Malbeth, but it works better if "we" equals "me" and "other" and I can't quite figure out how "she" would fit in (the very fact that there's a specific woman involved makes this a lot harder!). __________________ Got corsets?