T-I-G LXVII: The Rangers of the North - The Fell Winter

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Firstly, because he was never really even voted to be the Captain, he just became the Captain because the elected Captain happened to die (and I must say that surprised me because I - wrongly - assumed we'd be without a Captain in a case like that). Ok this might not be the best of reasons, especially as our elected Captain was a wolf, but still for the sake of democracy, I'd rather have someone really elected for the position (and of course that doesn't disinclude Legate being re-elected).

Well, come on - I WAS elected, I had the second biggest number of votes. It's not that I would not have any votes at all and then suddenly ended up a Captain. I was given trust by quite many people in the village, okay, you excluded, but others were fine with it, so what? The Wolf who would have been a Captain had died, okay, I also didn't know how the rules will go, but the second person was chosen according to the rules, I think it's perfectly fine. And that's just for clarification. I would have said this even if e.g. Roa was the second one and was chosen to succeed Rune.

Secondly, and more importantly, because I don't think anybody should have power for too long. It's not only dangerous but also a bit useless. Legate had his chance to be protected and appoint people to PM with and talk with them, now let's give someone else to have the chance. (In a way, I see it as rather selfish to ask for another Day of Captaincy, or eyebrow-raising in the least.) The village benefits the more we have different people PMing and thus forming ideas of each other every Night. And like people have said, it's not good to have a wolf captain or a gifted captain, so it's safer to change them regularly.

Eyebrow-raising, you say? Why? And it's not that I would come and shout "yaaay I want to be Captain, make me Captain one more day!" I just asked, if you want to see, I said:

Originally Posted by me

Btw. One topic to ponder (after other things, but just to say it before I am gone) - as I figured out, the Captain really can adjust his lynch-stopping powers only on the second Day of his Captainship, if he is still in office, so... do you folks want to change your Captain, or are you fine with keeping me at least one more Day (it would also help me to kind of make a better picture of things, being able to pick more BGs on the next Night) and then just see? Of course it's all the matter of how much you trust me etc., but even for further "usage" of the Captains, I have been thinking that given how the rules are, it would perhaps be better to just have them for at least these two consecutive Days. So one more thing you can think of or discuss or ponder while I am not around.

The point is rather: okay, we have this rule that Captain could do something with the lynch, but he needs to be there for second Day, I have been there for one Day, do you want to see it or not? You can see for yourself that it wasn't "come and make me a Captain again, it was so great!".

Speaking of that... is there any other idea of making somebody a Captain, other than myself and Roa?

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Secondly, by “reasoning in Rune’s favor” I mean people who were trying dissuade others from lynching him while not openly supporting him. While one wolf may have openly voted to make Rune captain, others may have been more subtle. When they saw the votes to lynch him building, they would have tried to change direction in the lynch by either putting up a different candidate, or talking down the points against him.

I am not sure it's something a Wolf would do, wouldn't it be kind of too obvious but at the same time too little effective? Isn't it far easier to just cast a vote for somebody else?

And anyway, whatever you keep saying here, I wasn't "over and over" saying that "Rune is innocent and shouldn't be lynched". I just said that I do not feel okay with lynching him, i.e. primarily myself, and later also the others. Have you read what I said about the Hunter? That was one of my strong reasons, more in the end.

We shouldn’t keep a captain two days in a row. And Legate, by suggesting we keep you on, aren’t you doing essentially the same thing Rune was doing yesterday?

Like what? I already am a Captain, I am not striving for Captainship, but when I am already there, I have nothing against staying there. What would you do in my place? (If you are innocent?) Wouldn't you want to get the chance to talk to two more people at Night, to see? I have no problem if I am removed from office, but of course - and now again try to think if you were in my place - when I am here, I am sure no Wolf can get my place. It's personal point of view and of course others don't share it, because they don't know that I am innocent. Nothing more than that, the thought I have behind what I say is my choice and it's quite easy. The rest is of course upon the rest of you.

Nienna, Hakon was found guilty for doing the same thing Rune did- declaring a desire to be captain. He said it oddly, but it was the same. I also suspected him for that reason.

And while Rune was a Wolf, Hakon was a Hunter. Suspicious for the same reasons, but having totally different roles. What did you think about Hakon yesterday, anyway?