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the phantom · 05-23-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer

You're taking down those who would stand up to you.

What does it matter who stands up to me if the Seer is still alive? We could have a village full of timid little mice, but if the Seer outs me I'm toast just the same. The Seer is approximately 274 times more dangerous than loud-mouths. Saying that I kill people based on whether they "stand up to me" is an insult to my common sense.

In my last game as a Wolf Shasta, Nerwen, Kath, and Durelin were alive the last day. The game before that I left Kuru and Ang alive till the end. The game before that I left the flippin Barrow-Wight alive till the end! No, no, Eomer... I don't mind loud independent folks at all. I am not frightened of people- I am frightened of the roles they have.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 05-23-2009, 04:20 PM

And this is a game where I hope the Seer has dreamed about you.

Inziladun · 05-23-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

What does it matter who stands up to me if the Seer is still alive? We could have a village full of timid little mice, but if the Seer outs me I'm toast just the same. The Seer is approximately 274 times more dangerous than loud-mouths. Saying that I kill people based on whether they "stand up to me" is an insult to my common sense.

I don't quite see why you would worry about the Seer unless you have something to hide.

Gwathagor · 05-23-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

I don't quite see why you would worry about the Seer unless you have something to hide.

I think phantom is speaking theoretically; feel free to correct me I'm wrong, Mr. P.

[EDIT: I notice that tp said basically this later on. I apologize for being redundant.]

But, who says Boro and Lommy weren't seer candidates in the eyes of the wolves?

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-23-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom

Oh, almost forgot to ask- Shasta...

Yesterday you miscounted the vote, and gave Mith only one vote when she actually had two.

Was that because you are Hansel and had used your power to make Boro's vote not count and thus when you counted you knew his wasn't real?

Nope. When I voted, I was going by Izzy's vote count in #285, and I completely missed that Izzy herself had voted Mith after that.

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

I'd also like to see more of Fea, Shasta, and Gwath.

People always want to see more of me. It's my stunning good looks.

Regarding Gaurcrist: The way he's going after Phantom specifically to the exclusion of all else, because of his playing style... hmm... who does that remind me of? Someone charming, handsome, and psychic, but I can't put a name to him... I'll have to think.

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Originally Posted by Eomer

Agan, I said that I thought Mith was giving out Seer-hints - not that I believed her in any way.

What was the point in pointing that out then? Simply saying "Mith is giving out Seer-hints" is hardly helpful to the village regardless of whether you believe her.

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

I'm still flip-flopping on Greenie. The way she flip-flopped on Cab & Shasta looked innocent but her posting near the deadline & her vote looked somehow... too calculating.

Agan, this is the second time you've said this and I'm no less confused than the first time. Since when is flip-flopping an innocent tell? Especially since I know I've seen you make cases on Lommy based on "flip-flopping".

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

I thought it best to inform you that I read that as "waits for Shasta to grow up".

Sniff. No one's ever mean to Phantom when he acts like this.

Nerwen, I agree with everything you said regarding Gaurcrist.

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Originally Posted by Izzy

I don't see Mith here.

#299 he votes and miscounts the vote tally. I suppose you wanted to keep your vote amongst those already voted for. But why not Fea whom was on your "possible fairytale characters gone wrong" list? Or why not vote for someone you actually found suspicious?

As well given what you said to Gaurcrist in #291. Where are your reasons for voting Mith? You gave reasons why you wouldn't vote for Boro and Eomer.

I wanted to keep my vote among those already voted for, and for some reason, given something I'd read (I don't remember exactly what it was) I was under the impression that Fea was having RL issues.

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Originally Posted by Eomer

Ha! It's you, isn't it phantom? I know it. It's probably still worth lynching Shasta too, mind.

Just because you don't want to waste a kill on me at night, Eomer...

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Originally Posted by Phantom

In my last game as a Wolf Shasta, Nerwen, Kath, and Durelin were alive the last day.

Don't remind me of that travesty, Phantom, please.

the phantom · 05-23-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Inzil

I don't quite see why you would worry about the Seer unless you have something to hide.

I was answering the question from the perspective of a Werewolf, Inzil, showing that the logical behavior did not match up with what actually happened.

Inziladun · 05-23-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

I was answering the question from the perspective of a Werewolf, Inzil, showing that the logical behavior did not match up with what actually happened.

Ahh. Right over my head.

the phantom · 05-23-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasta

Nope. When I voted, I was going by Izzy's vote count in #285, and I completely missed that Izzy herself had voted Mith after that.

Rats. There goes that theory.

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Originally Posted by Shasta

hmm... who does that remind me of?

Hee hee... It's on the tip of my tongue.

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Originally Posted by Shasta

Sniff. No one's ever mean to Phantom when he acts like this.

Ha ha! Yeah right.

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Originally Posted by Eomer

And this is a game where I hope the Seer has dreamed about you.

I'm usually the first to shout, "You know I've been dreamed of already, so leave me alone!" but I'm not going to say it this time. I've been paying attention to posts as much as I can, and thus far I haven't gotten the feeling that I've been a dream target. The people who are my leading candidates for Seer haven't indicated it, anyway. But perhaps Seer is just laying low.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 05-23-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

What was the point in pointing that out then? Simply saying "Mith is giving out Seer-hints" is hardly helpful to the village regardless of whether you believe her.

Er, what are you talking about it? I was speaking with Aganzir about why I didn't save Mith, and now you're jumping in and saying I'm not helpful. It's perfectly helpful because I'm explaining my vote and suspicions.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 05-23-2009, 04:38 PM

Anyway, I'm going to bed now. I'll be back to help lynch Shasta in the morning.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-23-2009, 04:47 PM

My point is, Eomer, that I can't see why an innocent would bring into the open any Seer-hints he saw. Sorry for not clarifying.

Gwathagor · 05-23-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

My point is, Eomer, that I can't see why an innocent would bring into the open any Seer-hints he saw. Sorry for not clarifying.

I agree with you here, Shasta. Why would an innocent want to bring the identity of the Seer to the attention of the village and consequently the wolves as well? On the other hand, why would a wolf bother when it could just PM its fellows that Night? Pointing out possible innocent gifteds is cobbler behavior, and it's what made me suspicious of Boro a couple of days ago (I was wrong about him, of course).

the phantom · 05-23-2009, 06:03 PM

Eomer- I don't think you ever answered the question I asked at the beginning of the day. Are you the RB?

Also, if you get the chance, Green, could you explain your Mith vote to me? I have written down that you said you didn't like any of the available candidates (you named Mith, Boro, and Eomer) but then you voted for Mith even though Izzy was available as an option, and you had not listed her as a bad lynch choice, where as you had mentioned Mith.

Isabellkya · 05-23-2009, 04:52 PM

Again.
Why didn't you vote for someone whom you found suspicious Shasta?

Unless I am mistaken, your post #292 was about those who you found to be possible baddies. At the time of your vote, the only one whom was on your list and on the block was Fea.

None of the others on the block, were on your list. (pointing out the obvious from the previous sentence.)

Keeping your vote amongst those already on the block, is well and good - if you actually suspect them. But voting for someone whom you haven't posted thoughts about - speaks to the case that you are just jumping on a wagon, and there for up to no good.

At this point. I think it highly likely that either you are a sloppy baddie, or the Cobbler. Though there is a little chance that you are an Ordo, who is not much paying attention.

X'd with Shasta and Mira.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-23-2009, 04:56 PM

Izzy, I already stated that my reason for not voting Fea was because she was having RL issues. My vote for Mith was based on my having better reasons to not vote for Boro, Eomer, and Fea than I had reasons not to vote Mith.

Isabellkya · 05-23-2009, 05:03 PM

Uh huh.
I smell something, and it is neither pleasant nor appropriate to say it specifically.

05-23-2009, 04:38 PM	#10
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Anyway, I'm going to bed now. I'll be back to help lynch Shasta in the morning. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

05-23-2009, 04:47 PM	#11
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	My point is, Eomer, that I can't see why an innocent would bring into the open any Seer-hints he saw. Sorry for not clarifying. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

05-23-2009, 06:03 PM	#13
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Eomer- I don't think you ever answered the question I asked at the beginning of the day. Are you the RB? Also, if you get the chance, Green, could you explain your Mith vote to me? I have written down that you said you didn't like any of the available candidates (you named Mith, Boro, and Eomer) but then you voted for Mith even though Izzy was available as an option, and you had not listed her as a bad lynch choice, where as you had mentioned Mith. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

05-23-2009, 04:52 PM	#14
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Again. Why didn't you vote for someone whom you found suspicious Shasta? Unless I am mistaken, your post #292 was about those who you found to be possible baddies. At the time of your vote, the only one whom was on your list and on the block was Fea. None of the others on the block, were on your list. (pointing out the obvious from the previous sentence.) Keeping your vote amongst those already on the block, is well and good - if you actually suspect them. But voting for someone whom you haven't posted thoughts about - speaks to the case that you are just jumping on a wagon, and there for up to no good. At this point. I think it highly likely that either you are a sloppy baddie, or the Cobbler. Though there is a little chance that you are an Ordo, who is not much paying attention. X'd with Shasta and Mira. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

05-23-2009, 04:56 PM	#15
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Izzy, I already stated that my reason for not voting Fea was because she was having RL issues. My vote for Mith was based on my having better reasons to not vote for Boro, Eomer, and Fea than I had reasons not to vote Mith. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

05-23-2009, 04:20 PM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	And this is a game where I hope the Seer has dreamed about you. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

05-23-2009, 05:03 PM	#16
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Uh huh. I smell something, and it is neither pleasant nor appropriate to say it specifically. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.