WW LXI: Grimm Tales

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Well, that's a bit of bad luck that the Princess found the Frog early.

But hardly surprising, given that the frog wanted to be found. And although the lovers die together, it's also often easier to process one's thoughts with someone else and reach conclusions, so a united lover pair certainly isn't a disadvantage.

Anyway now one third of us are baddies. We could pretty much roll dice to decide who to lynch and our chances of getting a baddie wouldn't be considerably worse, they'd possibly be even better considering the number of people with few posts.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I still have some misgivings about Kath, but as no one else seems to feel the same way, perhaps I'm simply wrong (it has happened on occasion).

I don't know why but this comment bothers me. If you suspect her, point out why instead of just saying you have some vague misgivings about her. At the moment it looks like you're just testing the ice to see if anyone else could start suspecting Kath, and when not, you back off immediately.

Originally Posted by Gaurcrist

Doesn't it seem suspicious that he would pop up saying, "Oh, I knew I should have done that!" right after someone was killed.

Not really, mainly because my thoughts about lynching them were pretty similar to his. I didn't specifically want to save them, either, because they were acting really weird and it looked like there was something to it. But apparently that something wasn't in-game...
And as for that gloating, it's simply like him.

I'm still flip-flopping on Greenie. The way she flip-flopped on Cab & Shasta looked innocent but her posting near the deadline & her vote looked somehow... too calculating.

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Hoom hrm, Agan, I said that I thought Mith was giving out Seer-hints - not that I believed her in any way. That's why I didn't try to save her. And why does it look from the way I behaved that I guessed she was the Fair Maiden? Pray tell how Mith was behaving like the Fair Maiden?

I didn't connect the Morwen quote to lost children, but she asked for one more day which I interpreted as a FM hint (since I had said on day 1 that her chances were best if she used all her guesses on day 3), and also "I am running out of time one way or another and "I maun dree my weird"." looked vaguely Fair Maidenish to me.
And then you posted that "there's certainly an option for one day" comment. Now, you see, I am a non-native speaker, but how I interpreted it was "You don't need that extra day if you guess five people already today".
And then you voted for someone who had no chance of being lynched, which looked pretty much like "tee-hee lynch a possible gifted, but oh I have so much difficulties deciding who to vote!"

Originally Posted by the phantom

Besides myself, I note that Sally and Agan are the only other two who haven't voted for a proven innocent yet.

Well since sally doesn't seem to be here to defend herself right now, I can do it for her - I'm rather convinced she voted for an innocent on day 1. And as for Aganzir, I'd like to think she's both good and right but we don't know it for sure as long as the village stubbornly refuses to listen to her wise counsel!

Originally Posted by phantom

*waits for Shasta to show up*

I thought it best to inform you that I read that as "waits for Shasta to grow up". You're such a gentleman, phantom.

edit: xed with Eomer (yes I think I have to forgive you since I didn't get that reference myself, either) & Izzy (bah why did you tell him sally's dead?)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

If Mith was going to be killed then forgive my bluntness but it didn't really matter too much to the village unless she was the Seer. I told her that, if she was the Seer, don't fret too much, stop being so darn suspicious, and get one more night (because the Ranger would surely protect her) and then we'd still have some use of her info.

The way it turned out, she just confused matters. She wasn't the Seer so why does it matter too much that we lynch her instead of yet another innocent?

So that's all I was doing in my 'wink wink' communication with Mith yesterday.

And why was she so convinced about Shasta?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

As for my "throwaway" vote, I already explained that I couldn't decide between Boro and Mith. Izzy was only there because people reasoned like me and volunteered her name. They got in early so they can avoid accusations of being "throwaway". Thing is, I had wanted to vote for Shasta just about all day but held my vote to follow discussion. I still find it curious that no-one else voted for him (I think no-one else did?).

I couldn't make any conclusions on the three names offered to me so stuck with my own choice. You're welcome to see that as suspicious but I'll have to disagree.

[the phantom]

And Nerwen, I really miss your odds! I was wanting to place some bets today.

How do these sound?

20-1: We lynch an Ordo.
24-1: There won't be a last minute voting flurry.
1-1: We lynch a Baddie.
9-1: Three people or more retract their votes.
5-1: Shasta puts on another "Phantom show".
24-1: These odds I'm giving are actually a coded message.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by the phantom

And Nerwen, I really miss your odds! I was wanting to place some bets today.

Sorry... got caught up in picking on the new kid.

Okay, how about

Everybody ends up voting for the same person (20-1).

We lynch another gifted/special role (2-1).

Shasta is Rumpelstiltskin (50-1).

[Isabellkya]

Oh dear. Where are Nilp and Sally when you need a previous Days vote rundown.


YesterDay's voting.


Lari -> Boro. 458pm EST.

Voting early again because I won't have internet access again for awhile and am sleepy.

++Boro

I don't like the way he sounds as of right now.

Gaur -> Boro. 514pm EST.

In my opinion, there are two people who are acting quite strange, ever since the beginning. There are A Little Green and Boromir. I have one of those feelings in my gut about Boro, and he seems to be the most suspicious. Plus, I don't like his avatar. So, I will heed the teachings of Ocham's razor and choose Boromir.

++Boromir88

Kath -> Eomer. 645pm EST.

Hi sorry I seem to have run out of time completely this evening! I'm going to have to just vote. From the look at Lommy's posts from yesterDay the one person that popped out as potentially suspicious to me was:

++EOMER

I do find him suspicious so although I would have liked to go through the rest of the posts in more detail I am happy with this vote.

Mira -> Fea. 729pm EST.

++Fea

For the reason I cited earlier. Love you dear!

Fea - Nobody's said that Fea looks suspicious yet. That generally means that she's evil. It's always when no one thinks she's suspicious that she's really evil and ends up fooling us all right until the end.

Boro -> Mith. 812pm EST.

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Sally -> Eomer. 1105pm EST.

Eomer, Agan, and maybe Mith are still giving me bad vibes. Alas, I can't talk too long because the laptop battery's not going to last forever, but let's just say the tone of his posts seems rather wolf-ish to me. If I die for not having time to explain, so be it, but I will vote how I feel, and that is....

Gwath -> Boro. 145am EST.

On a second thought, there's no way I'll be up in time to vote, sooo I'll stick with yesterDay's vote, for the sake of consistency.

++Boromir88

Izzy -> Mith. 448am EST.

++Mith
For reasons stated in the previous post. I find the majority of her post content lacking. Banter. Spam.

Shasta -> Mith. 648am EST.

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Zil -> Kath. 753am EST.

I see some nice discussion has taken place while I slept.
My tentative good feeling about Boro doesn't seem to be shared much. I find that interesting, coming from those who know him better.
Mith.... now inferring the village won't have a chance without her? And Shasta gave his vote for her as well.
I'm inclined to do the same, but Kath....
The deadline will be here about the time I'm arriving at work, so I'm going with

Nerwen -> Izzy. 841am EST.

For the moment–

++Izzy.

Because of what I said earlier... which I admit is pretty thin grounds for voting someone... but I can't work out what's going on with Mith and Boro, and I don't see Eomer as particularly vote-worthy.

I may still retract and vote one of the favourites. Depends on what happens between now and DL

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Agan -> Izzy. 845am EST.

++Izzy

I'd rather Boro or Mith didn't die today... But I'm here and can retract if that is for some reason needed.

Mith -> Izzy. 852am EST.


Phantom -> Izzy. 858am EST.

I'm way too tired for this.

++Izzy

Greenie -> Mith. 859am EST.

++ Mithalwen

Because I suspect her more than Boro or Izzy.

Eomer -> Shasta. 859am EST.

++SHASTA

Sorry, I just can't decide.

Caber -> Mith. 900am EST.

Well then. 5 of us left, and still no real answers. I'm in the same boat as Greenie here. None of these are a real choice for me.

++Mith

X'd since my last post, and left out Caber's vote.

[Mirandir]

Boro and sally, eh? I never would have guessed that. That being said, I'm going to go through their posts and look for hints. Then I'll start a suspicion list.

Oh, and Lari has food poisoning (we think) and won't be around.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Mira

Oh, and Lari has food poisoning (we think) and won't be around.

Well, that settles it. If Lari's going to die in RL anyway we might as well kill her off in the game too.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Well, that settles it. If Lari's going to die in RL anyway we might as well kill her off in the game too.

You're so aweful, haha.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Actually, though, you could still be LRC and have been turned last Night. Hmmn. I hadn't thought of that until just then.

Where did that come from?

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

She wasn't the Seer so why does it matter too much that we lynch her instead of yet another innocent?

How come you're so certain about Izzy's innocence?

Anyway I'm going to sleep now. I'll pop in to vote in the morning but I doubt I'm going to post much. Sorry this is just a busy day.

And as for voting, I really feel like going for someone with few posts because there are too many of them and I don't want yet another quiet wolf victory.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

How come you're so certain about Izzy's innocence?

Hrm, hoom; if I was paranoid I'd be screaming at you twisting my words, Agan.

When I say "Why would it matter if we killed Mith rather than any other innocent", I refer not to Izzy or any particular villager.

It is a general rule, I believe, that no innocent should cause too much trouble if seeming in danger of being lynched. The way Mithalwen was carrying on yesterday, when she didn't have too many votes and nothing was decided, suggested that it was really, really bad that she might die. This is only true if she's the Seer. Obviously she wasn't, so I don't see why there was such a drama yesterday.

I am talking about Mithalwen's behaviour, early on in the day; you took my words out of context, and applied them to the end of the day, when Izzy was suddenly a genuine lynching candidate.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

And really, all this explaining myself is putting me on a very public pedestal so I'd rather do something constructive, if that's ok.