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Old 09-07-2008, 09:27 AM   #40
Rune Son of Bjarne
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Originally Posted by wispeight View Post
Loki supposedly killed Baldr and I feel that this might be mere assertion and it could quite possibly have been another god, jealous of the esteem Baldr enjoyed from so many deities.
According the earliest sources it was Hoðr (Hod) Baldr's brother who killed him by throwing a spear (or shoting an arrow) at Baldr. This spear (arrow) was made of mistletoe, the only object that did not vow not to hurt Baldr. Of course Hoðr was tricked into this by Loki, but still. . .
Anyways I have not seen any indication that any God other than Loki had a desire to kill Baldr.

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Actually, in at least some versions of the legends I've heard, Loki was only a sort of "honorary" Aesier. He was by birth, a Joton (one of the bad giant/troll races) who impressed Odin so much with his shapeshifing ability that Odin brough him to Asgard and made him his blood brother. Most of the other gods hated Loki, but they coulnt do anything to him since he had Odin's blood in him now. they also gave him some credit for using his shapeshifting abilites to turn himself into a mare and draw the gant stomasons horse off before the stonemason could make good on his promise to wall all of Asgard in one day, thereby simultaneously saving the Aesier from losing Freya (and by extension access to the golden apples of immortality and youth) and simultaneously providing Odin with Slephnir his hyperfast eight legged steed. As to Baldur both points are tecnically correct. It was Loki who found out Baldur's one weakness (mistletoe) made the arrow out of it and tricked someone into shooting it. but it was tecnically another God who took the shot. But there is no question that Loki has a dark side, I mean look at who his Children were, Hel (queen of the underword), The Midgard Serpent, and Fenrir who ultimately bit off Tyr's hand (shades of Charcaroth and Beren?) Also wasnt he the god supposed to pilot the boat of dead men's fingernails during Ragnarok? thats enough for now.
He was definitly Odin's bloodbrother, but it is hard to tell if he was a giant or a god. . .There is no real consistency in what the sourses say.

Anyways I just want clarify that it was Idun who was the keeper of the Golden Apples.
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