Werewolf XLVIII: When Virtual Becomes Reality

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Eönwë darling, please see my #407.

Ok, ok I get the hint. Here is a list (If I get killed in the night for this, Agan, I'm coming after you in the next game):

Prime suspects:
Mithalwen
Shasta
Nogrod

and then there's Eomer

edit: ooh, and maybe Kitanna, but sometimes she seemes really suspicious, and sometimes not at all.

I'm just not sure any more

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Ok, ok I get the hint. Here is a list (If I get killed in the night for this, Agan, I'm coming after you in the next game):

Prime suspects:
Mithalwen
Shasta
Nogrod

and then there's Eomer

The two people most talked about today and the person I just posted about....

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

The two people most talked about today and the person I just posted about....

Well, obviously. You expected something new and contemporary? This is WW, by now, nothing is fresh.

And by the way, I didn't even read your last post so .

edit: spelt obviously wrong.

[Eönwë]

What I mean is, most of what has been said is what will be said later on, just pieced together differently. It is only in the first few days that people get a chance to say something new (especially on Day 1, and day 1's are never relevant). People just base their suspicions upon older ones and tailor them to suit themselves.

[Nogrod]

I decided to check the action from yuesterDay before the DL.

The votes at 10 minutes before the deadline were:
Nilp 3
Eomer 2

Originally Posted by Eomer

Ach, no.
2 votes.
Well...
I'm the Hunter.

Originally Posted by Dury

*sigh* Yes, yes, we figured by now you were someone important, the way you were acting...

Originally Posted by Form

*irritated*
You're not dead yet, you know... Nilp's still the front-runner.
Of course, if you don't die, we won't know for sure if you are hunter or not... and the wolves might not kill you tonight.

Originally Posted by Eomer

With 2 votes and plenty of talk about me, and with minutes to spare, I'm not taking any chances. I'm not killing an innocent.

Originally Posted by Sally, after the DL

Eomer, I'm glad you're not dead but you weren't in the lead when you revealed. Was it really necessary?

As you see I have bolded two interesting comments there. Form's foresight, readiness to challenge the believability of Eomer's revelation and his open annoyance do raise my eyebrows but they might talk for his innocence as well.

But what on Arda does Eomer mean by saying that he's "not killing an innocent"? Should that be counted as a slip of the angle he's looking the game from? Gah, I don't know. All the reasons would state that he's true (the possibility of the real hunter to pull his bluff, Brinn not changing a gifted to a wolf... ) but I just don't like that sentence. It's not something innocents say.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But what on Arda does Eomer mean by saying that he's "not killing an innocent"? Should that be counted as a slip of the angle he's looking the game from? Gah, I don't know. All the reasons would state that he's true (the possibility of the real hunter to pull his bluff, Brinn not changing a gifted to a wolf... ) but I just don't like that sentence. It's not something innocents say.

What's the problem, Nogrod? I speak of the rules of the game regarding the Hunter. If I am lynched I kill whoever I choose to hunt, wolf or innocent. If I am attacked by wolves in the night, I can kill only a wolf. With this rule, I absolutely refuse to be lynched (hence my reveal when there was a danger of this).

You seem to be doing a lot to cause confusion.

[Rikae]

I was just wondering: how did we end up with the field narrowed to Shasta and Mith?


Nogrod, in post #356, says he still thinks Mith may be a wolf for avoiding talking about Nerwen, and Durelin may have been dropping hints about Shasta being a wolf.


In the very next post, Kitanna says: “But what about Shasta and Mith as her voting candidates for yesterday's vote? Could she have voted for one of them and found one of them a wolf? If that's the case she might have dreamt of Mith. Or those were two she wanted to dream of and never got the chance. If that's the case maybe it put the hackers on edge that someone was on to them.”


#359, Nogrod says he's wishing to lynch Mith.


#360, Form says not to ignore Mith because of her near brush with death.


#361, Kitanna inclined to think Durelin dreamed of a Mith-wolf, or had plans to dream of her or a Shasta-wolf, making them nervous.


#362 – Eomer's theory that the wolves would have killed him if Shasta was not a wolf. (Unfortunately, most wolves would suspect a possible trap by a hunter, so I don't think we can glean much from this)


#366 Kitanna votes for Mith and thinks Shasta is a wolf, too.


#367 Agan thinks Shasta looks innocent, Mith looks suspicious.


#368 Boro thinks Kitanna may be corredt and Mith or Shasta a wolf.


#371 Eomer accuses Mith of trying to buy Shasta another day.


#374 Boro agrees with Eomer, thinks one of the two is the spammer & the other a hacker.


#375 Eomer: “Shasta and Mith both seem like excellent lynching targets toDay.” Votes for Shasta.


#377 Boro says “Boro's got lots of time on his off day and would like to keep this an active day, and not resign ourselves to "Well Shasta or Mith will get it today, here's my vote, bye."


Nice enough, but Boro has played a big role in narrowing it to Shasta and Mith, and he's rather reinforcing the idea by pronouncing it so like this, too.


At any rate, I can't shake the feeling that something is fishy here, and going over the day's events has me feeling uneasy about Kitanna – or possibly Nogrod, who might have been on the chopping block if these two hadn't been the front runners. Also, let's not discount the possibility Eomer is actually the spammer! The real hunter may be lying low because being lynched, even while taking spammer-Eomer along, wouldn't help the village nearly as much as being wolf-killed.


Just a few thoughts.

[Boromir88]

I wasn't saying that he wasn't a hunter for sure, I was just looking at things from a different angle. Anyway, you'll see that I soon rejected the theory in any case.~Eonwe

It's been noted, and just so everyone understands my last three posts have been to keep a discussion fueled for today, and consider some things for down the road. I still have the complete intention of voting for either Shasta or Mith today. (So, yes Mith I'm still pretty keen on seeing you dead.) I just don't know if you're a wolf, or a spammer trying to protect who you think is a wolf.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

I speak of the rules of the game regarding the Hunter. If I am lynched I kill whoever I choose to hunt, wolf or innocent. If I am attacked by wolves in the night, I can kill only a wolf.

Sorry. My bad. I had no idea about that kind of new version of the hunter... Maybe I should have followed the discussions a bit more closely...

But anyway. Brinn's explanation has already convinced me that I will consider voting for you only if someone comes to claim the role of hunter as well.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

The two people most talked about today and the person I just posted about....

Seems like guaranteed Eönwë-style...

I have thought it too eyebrow-raising to be wolf-behaviour but I don't know.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I have thought it too eyebrow-raising to be wolf-behaviour but I don't know.

Anyway, wouldn't that be too obvious for a wolf? Even me.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I don't know how Brinn made the choice of the new wolf or would she allow the village to lose a gifted for the wolves to get one for their pack though... So maybe that's not the case... *crosses fingers*

Let me clarify some things regarding the newly turned wolf, so there is not too much confusion.

I did not de-gift anyone. The newly bitten wolf was previously an ordo. It wouldn't have been fair to turn any gifteds, even the cobbler (as I know from personal experience).

Also, if bringing in a new wolf affected Durelin's previous dreams at all, she would have been informed.

Lastly, the new wolf was turned sometime during the extended Night 3. So he/she would've taken part in any wolf planning once informed of the new role.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I have thought it too eyebrow-raising to be wolf-behaviour but I don't know.

AnywayX2- aren't wolves always killed in bandwaggons (except really late in the game).

[Eönwë]

Hmm... Just over an hour left- Anything could happen...