Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLVII: Dueling Wizards Werewolf II - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Brinniel · 06-08-2008, 05:11 PM

I knew it. I didn't want to say anything yesterDay to give anything away to the wolves, but as Izzy said...it all seemed too clean. There was no way they could all be lying about claimed roles...so I figured one of the good guys must be lying too. Towards the end, I had a feeling Di might not actually be the GW but the seer instructed (or at her own will) covering for the GW. I was hoping the wolves wouldn't see it this way, but I guess I was wrong...

Brinniel · 06-08-2008, 05:13 PM

There there was no indication of a protection in the narration, I think it's more likely either a gifted or wolf was scryed. One kill= three wolves.

Roa_Aoife · 06-08-2008, 05:31 PM

Well, Di's role is certainly a surprise. The question is now what we can gather between that and what it means for phantom and Rikae (And consequently Legate).

Here are the possibilities I can think of:

A. Di was the seer and dreamed of Cailin. She didn't know who the GW or the other gifted were. This means that we can't really figure out if she knew phantom's role or Legate's role. She didn't dispute phantom's claim, but that may only mean that she doesn't know the identity of the hunter, and so chose to trust phantom because he also wanted to lynch Cailin.

B. Di was the seer and dreamed of Cailin. She did know the GW but not the Hunter. She would know Rikae was lying, and chose to trust phantom because again, he was for lynching Legate.

C. Di knew both the GW and the hunter's role, and so sided with the hunter, phantom.

I can't understand why the GW would risk revealing her identity to the gifted, since they could be turned to wolves and tell the EW. So I'm more prone to believe A. Which means that we can't just immediately jump to conclusions about either phantom or Rikae's roles. However, this doesn't explain Rikae's behavior very well if she is the GW or perhaps the hunter.

Of course, there is also the fact that there was only one kill last night, which means that the EW did NOT scry another wolf. Either the EW scried the hunter, and the hunter is now an ordo among us, or the the EW scried the GW, in which case we may expect a challenge soon, but not necessarily. Especially if the evil team is down so low.

I need to go through Rikae's posts. I'll be back in... likely a few hours with how much there is to read.

Edit: Cross posted with a lot. Well, I guess Rikae has answered the question for me.

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-08-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa

I can't understand why the GW would risk revealing her identity to the gifted, since they could be turned to wolves and tell the EW. So I'm more prone to believe A. Which means that we can't just immediately jump to conclusions about either phantom or Rikae's roles. However, this doesn't explain Rikae's behavior very well if she is the GW or perhaps the hunter.

See, this is a point I'm unclear on. If the EW scries a gifted, does that immediately turn the gifted into a wolf, or just an ordo? Because if it's the latter, then the GW should have no qualms about revealing herself to her gifted because ordos are still innocent.

Thinlómien · 06-08-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

See, this is a point I'm unclear on. If the EW scries a gifted, does that immediately turn the gifted into a wolf, or just an ordo? Because if it's the latter, then the GW should have no qualms about revealing herself to her gifted because ordos are still innocent.

Just an ordo. But an ordo can be scried into a wolf...

edit: xed with Rikae who pretends to be the EW. Nice.

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-08-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Just an ordo. But an ordo can be scried into a wolf...

edit: xed with Rikae who pretends to be the EW. Nice.

Yes, but that would take two nights, giving the GW a chance to act, correct?

Roa_Aoife · 06-08-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Yes, but that would take two nights, giving the GW a chance to act, correct?

Act how, exactly, Shasta?

Someone mentioned the Ranger. I suppose it's possible, so then we have four wolves, a clever ranger, and an irritating as sin hunter *glares at phantom*.

If you have directions from the GW, hand 'em over. Stop playing games with us. I notice that that's exactly what Rikae did yesterday. We know that Diamond trusted you, but we don't know that she knew your role. You could very well be the EW and Rikae is your wolf. I wouldn't put that kind of move past either of you. You can say that Di was trying to help you because she knew you, but all we have is your word on that. She may have simply been duped.

mormegil · 06-08-2008, 07:01 PM

A Little Green--No real read on her, pretty quiet.
Shastanis Althreduin--A bit too opinionated and not willing to listen to reason or at least give what the phantom says a shot. He seems to inclinced to distrust everybody
Isabellkaya--A good possible 'under the radar' wolf
Thinlómien --Like always I think she's evil but I don't have any real good reason to think this.
Nilpaurion Felagund--He feels right to me. I think Nilp is somebody we should trust
Eönwë--No read
Kath--She may have spoken less than me up to this point.
Satansaloser--Seems all over the place and a mass poster. I'm not sure I see eye to eye with her and she hounds a lot of trivial points but overall I think her innocent.
Rikae--Evil of some sort
the phantom--I think he is gifted and most likely not turned last night. I am willing to listen to him if what he says makes sense. He has been the voice of reason to me and I have looked to him for leadership.
Lhunardawen--Sincere enough and seems all right.
Durelin --*shrugs*
Roa_Aoife --*sigh* I never know what to think of her. Her style tends to rub me the wrong way and makes me think her guilty but she seems sincere so I'm currently inclined to think her innocent.
Brinniel--She didn't sit right with me at first but has since calmed down and I think her suspicios but not guilty.
Lalaith--Something is not right with her and if I were the seer I would dream of her.
Celuien--Sems innocent and sincere.
Gwathagor--Far too rash today to just up and vote. Almost as if he is a wolf wanting to show how quick he was willing to jump on that bandwagon. Makes me very suspicous.
McCaber--No idea.

I hope I didn't miss anybody. Due to my schedule and real life I haven't kept up as much as I would like but this is the impression I get from what I've read. Being that things on here have calmed and thinned a bit I should keep better track of what is going on.

Celuien · 06-09-2008, 01:05 PM

Starting with the obvious:

Bad to the bone:
Rikae
Nilpaurion Furrygund

Good:
the phantom

Making me suspicious:
Roa_Aoife - at first I thought the fighting with the phantom was just personalities facing off... but now that it's rather obvious that he's innocent, it's troubling to me that she's continuing to voice mistrust of him (ex: "I'm not certain we can trust phantom" in post 1110). Yes, phantom's assuredness can be... taxing. But he's the one person here I think can be trusted right now, so irritating or not, bossiness should get a pass. *shrugs*

And also suspicious for initially trusting evil-Rikae's GW impersonation yesterday.

Slightly less suspicious:
Lommy - something felt funny about her reactions to the events yesterday, as pointed out by others. I have nothing to add to those comments.

Probably good:
morm
Lalaith
Gwathagor
sally
Legate

Now for the largest category....

I can't tell
Greenie
Shasta
Izzy
Eönwe
Kath
The Lhunatic
Durelin
Brinniel
McCaber

Will think some more on that category.

And I think that's everyone.

Rikae · 06-08-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

edit: xed with Rikae who pretends to be the EW. Nice.

I'm pretending? Well, I guess that makes me a wolf, then. Lynch me! I dare you, sis-in-law!

Thinlómien · 06-08-2008, 05:42 PM

Every cell in me urges me not to follow phantom's directions. I'm not always bad at taking orders, but I'm bad at taking orders from haughty people who behave all too self-consciously and annoy me and whom I'm not sure if I can trust. *le sigh* I mean, I think I can trust tp but I'm not sure, this game is looking more and more complicated...

On the other hand, I was planning to do such a summary toDay anyway, just to force myself to think about some people I have so stupidly let fly under my radar.

And I can't think of any harm that doing it would bring. So, phantom, know this: when (if?) I do the summary, I'm doing it because I planned to do so, not because you requested it. Period.

I also recommed others not to be as rebellious-spirited as I am. I think it's a very good idea to make everybody make a summary... we must just swallow our pride and let tp boss us around... (I can see how he enjoys the situation...)

edit: xed with everybody who posted after me

Rikae · 06-08-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Edit: Cross posted with a lot. Well, I guess Rikae has answered the question for me.

Tsk tsk - don't you remember? Tp ordered you not to listen to me.

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-08-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Tsk tsk - don't you remember? Tp ordered you not to listen to me.

Which irritated me; I don't take ultimatums well. *glares at Phantom*

the phantom · 06-08-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sally

Blast you Phantom it's dinner time! Don't go yet. Explain, my dear boy, explain!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasta

Phantom, you're really irritating me with this "I have important information that you need to know, but I'm not going to tell you right now" business.

Sorry, but I literally have to walk out of the door to my house this second!

Actually, I should already be on my way!

Sorry, but that's all for now. Follow those three rules I gave you.

Good bye.

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-08-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom

Follow those three rules I gave you.

!!!!!!!

Rikae · 06-08-2008, 05:43 PM

Now Shasta - questioning the GW like that might get you lynched... careful there!

Lhunardawen · 06-09-2008, 03:00 AM

Checking in, and catching up. Wah.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-09-2008, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

Checking in, and catching up. Wah.

The same. Actually, I am not very sure about my performance toDay. I will probably have to vote early, not stay here until the DL, and even my posting will be probably very brief. I may as well just post as short and simple list, a "ladder" of my opinions on people and that would be it.

Later...

Isabellkya · 06-08-2008, 05:40 PM

I just want to get in a post real quick before I head off to help with dinner.

I think it is blatantly obvious that the EW either scried the GW or a Gifted. There was only one kill last night - which as I see a few people have pointed out, means only three wolves. Though I do recall something else which was mentioned by Nog about there being new instructions to the wolves - I'd have to look it over to check.

I think phantom slipped yesterday, and let it be known that Diamond was not the TRUE GW.. I will even show you where if you don't know.. when I return.

As well... the simplest reason for such things.. can be true. Rikae herself said that she was having fun in saying she was the GW. If she were the EW, what more could/would there need to be, in fake revealing herself as the GW - other than to ferret out a gifted or two, as well as the GW. Even flushing out one is gift enough, but all would've been a jackpot. So it seems to me - that the EW or one of the wolves picked up on Diamond as the seer - and thus decided to kill her for it. As well, they could easily scry Phantom, thus getting rid of two gifteds in one night. It is more logical this way - scrying Phantom doesn't allow him to get his dying kill, killing the seer; well why wouldn't they? So I would say, giving up adding an extra wolf to their pack, seems to have been well worth it to be able to get rid of two gifteds in on night.

I think there were a few other things I wanted to say, but I had a gazillion thoughts I wanted to get out quickly. I shall return later.

X'd since Roa's #986.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-08-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

She would know Rikae was lying, and chose to trust phantom because again, he was for lynching Legate.

Hey, you mean against lynching Legate?

Roa_Aoife · 06-08-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Hey, you mean against lynching Legate?

Actually, I meant for lynching Cailin.

satansaloser2005 · 06-08-2008, 05:47 PM

Nilp-->Rikae at 10:20am
Lhuna-->Sally at 10:20am
Izzy-->Diamond at 11:03am
Rikae-->Rikae at 11:33am
Morm-->Lommie at 12:33pm
Roa-->Legate at 2:25pm
Diamond-->Cailin at 3:41pm
Legate-->Cailin at 4:06pm
Kath-->Cailin at 4:50pm
Lallie-->Cailin at 4:52pm
Cellie-->Cailin at 4:52pm
Dure-->Cailin at 4:53pm
Brinn-->Cailin at 4:56pm
Gwath-->Cailin at 5:00pm
Sally-->Cailin at 5:17pm
Cailin-->Morm at 5:20pm
Lommie-->Cailin at 5:20pm
Phantom-->Cailin at 5:27pm
Greenie-->Cailin at 5:46pm
No voters: Erm....whoever didn't vote. I just realized what time it is, so I'll go through my list later and see who didn't put in their two cents.

NOTE: GMT-5 again today. Innocents and Wolves

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-08-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Nilp-->Rikae at 10:20am
Lhuna-->Sally at 10:20am
Izzy-->Diamond at 11:03am
Rikae-->Rikae at 11:33am
Morm-->Lommie at 12:33pm
Roa-->Legate at 2:25pm
Diamond-->Cailin at 3:41pm
Legate-->Cailin at 4:06pm
Kath-->Cailin at 4:50pm
Lallie-->Cailin at 4:52pm
Cellie-->Cailin at 4:52pm
Dure-->Cailin at 4:53pm
Brinn-->Cailin at 4:56pm
Gwath-->Cailin at 5:00pm
Sally-->Cailin at 5:17pm
Cailin-->Morm at 5:20pm
Lommie-->Cailin at 5:20pm
Phantom-->Cailin at 5:27pm
Greenie-->Cailin at 5:46pm
No voters: Erm....whoever didn't vote. I just realized what time it is, so I'll go through my list later and see who didn't put in their two cents.

NOTE: GMT-5 again today. Innocents and Wolves

I didn't vote. Our electricity was out in the morning, and later in the day I was at a wedding.

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-08-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Amazing Lommy

I'm not always bad at taking orders, but I'm bad at taking orders from haughty people who behave all too self-consciously and annoy me and whom I'm not sure if I can trust.

*hugs Lommy* Thank you! And thank you, Roa, for saying exactly what I wanted to say.

As for "acting how", as pertaining to my earlier question, I meant that the GW could act to prevent the former Gifted from becoming a wolf.

satansaloser2005 · 06-08-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

*hugs Lommy* Thank you! And thank you, Roa, for saying exactly what I wanted to say.

As for "acting how", as pertaining to my earlier question, I meant that the GW could act to prevent the former Gifted from becoming a wolf.

Problem is that if they tried to scry them back they may kill their intended team member. Overabundance of magic remember? Or whatever it's called....

I'll be around for like three more minutes, then I must be heading out for a few hours.

Thinlómien · 06-08-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

*hugs Lommy* Thank you! And thank you, Roa, for saying exactly what I wanted to say.
As for "acting how", as pertaining to my earlier question, I meant that the GW could act to prevent the former Gifted from becoming a wolf.

Nice that my dad (at least) likes me.

But you know, I'm not exactly for forming a guerilla front against tp. I think Roa is right with demanding him to be more clear, but he left, so what can we do? *shrugs* I can't really see it harming us to do those summaries, so maybe we just have to obey, even if that involves gritting our teeth...

And as for that acting how thing, yes, the GW could rescry the ordo so that she would die instead of turning evil. A waste of scry but possibly necessary...

edit: xed with everybody after Shasta's 1005

Rikae · 06-08-2008, 05:48 PM

Well, kiddo, I'll play along. Here's my opinion on everybody:
THEY'RE ALL WOLVES! LYNCH THEM ALL!

06-08-2008, 05:11 PM	#1
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	I knew it. I didn't want to say anything yesterDay to give anything away to the wolves, but as Izzy said...it all seemed too clean. There was no way they could all be lying about claimed roles...so I figured one of the good guys must be lying too. Towards the end, I had a feeling Di might not actually be the GW but the seer instructed (or at her own will) covering for the GW. I was hoping the wolves wouldn't see it this way, but I guess I was wrong... __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum Last edited by Brinniel; 06-08-2008 at 05:17 PM. Reason: spelling

06-08-2008, 05:13 PM	#2
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	There there was no indication of a protection in the narration, I think it's more likely either a gifted or wolf was scryed. One kill= three wolves. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

06-08-2008, 05:31 PM	#3
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Well, Di's role is certainly a surprise. The question is now what we can gather between that and what it means for phantom and Rikae (And consequently Legate). Here are the possibilities I can think of: A. Di was the seer and dreamed of Cailin. She didn't know who the GW or the other gifted were. This means that we can't really figure out if she knew phantom's role or Legate's role. She didn't dispute phantom's claim, but that may only mean that she doesn't know the identity of the hunter, and so chose to trust phantom because he also wanted to lynch Cailin. B. Di was the seer and dreamed of Cailin. She did know the GW but not the Hunter. She would know Rikae was lying, and chose to trust phantom because again, he was for lynching Legate. C. Di knew both the GW and the hunter's role, and so sided with the hunter, phantom. I can't understand why the GW would risk revealing her identity to the gifted, since they could be turned to wolves and tell the EW. So I'm more prone to believe A. Which means that we can't just immediately jump to conclusions about either phantom or Rikae's roles. However, this doesn't explain Rikae's behavior very well if she is the GW or perhaps the hunter. Of course, there is also the fact that there was only one kill last night, which means that the EW did NOT scry another wolf. Either the EW scried the hunter, and the hunter is now an ordo among us, or the the EW scried the GW, in which case we may expect a challenge soon, but not necessarily. Especially if the evil team is down so low. I need to go through Rikae's posts. I'll be back in... likely a few hours with how much there is to read. Edit: Cross posted with a lot. Well, I guess Rikae has answered the question for me. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

06-08-2008, 07:01 PM	#8
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	A Little Green--No real read on her, pretty quiet. Shastanis Althreduin--A bit too opinionated and not willing to listen to reason or at least give what the phantom says a shot. He seems to inclinced to distrust everybody Isabellkaya--A good possible 'under the radar' wolf Thinlómien --Like always I think she's evil but I don't have any real good reason to think this. Nilpaurion Felagund--He feels right to me. I think Nilp is somebody we should trust Eönwë--No read Kath--She may have spoken less than me up to this point. Satansaloser--Seems all over the place and a mass poster. I'm not sure I see eye to eye with her and she hounds a lot of trivial points but overall I think her innocent. Rikae--Evil of some sort the phantom--I think he is gifted and most likely not turned last night. I am willing to listen to him if what he says makes sense. He has been the voice of reason to me and I have looked to him for leadership. Lhunardawen--Sincere enough and seems all right. Durelin --shrugs Roa_Aoife --sigh I never know what to think of her. Her style tends to rub me the wrong way and makes me think her guilty but she seems sincere so I'm currently inclined to think her innocent. Brinniel--She didn't sit right with me at first but has since calmed down and I think her suspicios but not guilty. Lalaith--Something is not right with her and if I were the seer I would dream of her. Celuien--Sems innocent and sincere. Gwathagor--Far too rash today to just up and vote. Almost as if he is a wolf wanting to show how quick he was willing to jump on that bandwagon. Makes me very suspicous. McCaber--No idea. I hope I didn't miss anybody. Due to my schedule and real life I haven't kept up as much as I would like but this is the impression I get from what I've read. Being that things on here have calmed and thinned a bit I should keep better track of what is going on. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

06-08-2008, 05:42 PM	#11
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Every cell in me urges me not to follow phantom's directions. I'm not always bad at taking orders, but I'm bad at taking orders from haughty people who behave all too self-consciously and annoy me and whom I'm not sure if I can trust. le sigh I mean, I think I can trust tp but I'm not sure, this game is looking more and more complicated... On the other hand, I was planning to do such a summary toDay anyway, just to force myself to think about some people I have so stupidly let fly under my radar. And I can't think of any harm that doing it would bring. So, phantom, know this: when (if?) I do the summary, I'm doing it because I planned to do so, not because you requested it. Period. I also recommed others not to be as rebellious-spirited as I am. I think it's a very good idea to make everybody make a summary... we must just swallow our pride and let tp boss us around... (I can see how he enjoys the situation...) edit: xed with everybody who posted after me __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

06-09-2008, 01:05 PM	#9
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	List Starting with the obvious: Bad to the bone: Rikae Nilpaurion Furrygund Good: the phantom Making me suspicious: Roa_Aoife - at first I thought the fighting with the phantom was just personalities facing off... but now that it's rather obvious that he's innocent, it's troubling to me that she's continuing to voice mistrust of him (ex: "I'm not certain we can trust phantom" in post 1110). Yes, phantom's assuredness can be... taxing. But he's the one person here I think can be trusted right now, so irritating or not, bossiness should get a pass. shrugs And also suspicious for initially trusting evil-Rikae's GW impersonation yesterday. Slightly less suspicious: Lommy - something felt funny about her reactions to the events yesterday, as pointed out by others. I have nothing to add to those comments. Probably good: morm Lalaith Gwathagor sally Legate Now for the largest category.... I can't tell Greenie Shasta Izzy Eönwe Kath The Lhunatic Durelin Brinniel McCaber Will think some more on that category. And I think that's everyone. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff. Last edited by Celuien; 06-09-2008 at 01:06 PM. Reason: Crossed with everyone from Lal at post 1145

06-08-2008, 05:43 PM	#16
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Now Shasta - questioning the GW like that might get you lynched... careful there!

06-09-2008, 03:00 AM	#17
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Checking in, and catching up. Wah.

06-08-2008, 05:40 PM	#19
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	I just want to get in a post real quick before I head off to help with dinner. I think it is blatantly obvious that the EW either scried the GW or a Gifted. There was only one kill last night - which as I see a few people have pointed out, means only three wolves. Though I do recall something else which was mentioned by Nog about there being new instructions to the wolves - I'd have to look it over to check. I think phantom slipped yesterday, and let it be known that Diamond was not the TRUE GW.. I will even show you where if you don't know.. when I return. As well... the simplest reason for such things.. can be true. Rikae herself said that she was having fun in saying she was the GW. If she were the EW, what more could/would there need to be, in fake revealing herself as the GW - other than to ferret out a gifted or two, as well as the GW. Even flushing out one is gift enough, but all would've been a jackpot. So it seems to me - that the EW or one of the wolves picked up on Diamond as the seer - and thus decided to kill her for it. As well, they could easily scry Phantom, thus getting rid of two gifteds in one night. It is more logical this way - scrying Phantom doesn't allow him to get his dying kill, killing the seer; well why wouldn't they? So I would say, giving up adding an extra wolf to their pack, seems to have been well worth it to be able to get rid of two gifteds in on night. I think there were a few other things I wanted to say, but I had a gazillion thoughts I wanted to get out quickly. I shall return later. X'd since Roa's #986. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-08-2008, 05:48 PM	#27
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Well, kiddo, I'll play along. Here's my opinion on everybody: THEY'RE ALL WOLVES! LYNCH THEM ALL!