Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLVII: Dueling Wizards Werewolf II - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-08-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa

I can't understand why the GW would risk revealing her identity to the gifted, since they could be turned to wolves and tell the EW. So I'm more prone to believe A. Which means that we can't just immediately jump to conclusions about either phantom or Rikae's roles. However, this doesn't explain Rikae's behavior very well if she is the GW or perhaps the hunter.

See, this is a point I'm unclear on. If the EW scries a gifted, does that immediately turn the gifted into a wolf, or just an ordo? Because if it's the latter, then the GW should have no qualms about revealing herself to her gifted because ordos are still innocent.

Thinlómien · 06-08-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

See, this is a point I'm unclear on. If the EW scries a gifted, does that immediately turn the gifted into a wolf, or just an ordo? Because if it's the latter, then the GW should have no qualms about revealing herself to her gifted because ordos are still innocent.

Just an ordo. But an ordo can be scried into a wolf...

edit: xed with Rikae who pretends to be the EW. Nice.

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-08-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Just an ordo. But an ordo can be scried into a wolf...

edit: xed with Rikae who pretends to be the EW. Nice.

Yes, but that would take two nights, giving the GW a chance to act, correct?

Roa_Aoife · 06-08-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Yes, but that would take two nights, giving the GW a chance to act, correct?

Act how, exactly, Shasta?

Someone mentioned the Ranger. I suppose it's possible, so then we have four wolves, a clever ranger, and an irritating as sin hunter *glares at phantom*.

If you have directions from the GW, hand 'em over. Stop playing games with us. I notice that that's exactly what Rikae did yesterday. We know that Diamond trusted you, but we don't know that she knew your role. You could very well be the EW and Rikae is your wolf. I wouldn't put that kind of move past either of you. You can say that Di was trying to help you because she knew you, but all we have is your word on that. She may have simply been duped.

mormegil · 06-08-2008, 07:01 PM

A Little Green--No real read on her, pretty quiet.
Shastanis Althreduin--A bit too opinionated and not willing to listen to reason or at least give what the phantom says a shot. He seems to inclinced to distrust everybody
Isabellkaya--A good possible 'under the radar' wolf
Thinlómien --Like always I think she's evil but I don't have any real good reason to think this.
Nilpaurion Felagund--He feels right to me. I think Nilp is somebody we should trust
Eönwë--No read
Kath--She may have spoken less than me up to this point.
Satansaloser--Seems all over the place and a mass poster. I'm not sure I see eye to eye with her and she hounds a lot of trivial points but overall I think her innocent.
Rikae--Evil of some sort
the phantom--I think he is gifted and most likely not turned last night. I am willing to listen to him if what he says makes sense. He has been the voice of reason to me and I have looked to him for leadership.
Lhunardawen--Sincere enough and seems all right.
Durelin --*shrugs*
Roa_Aoife --*sigh* I never know what to think of her. Her style tends to rub me the wrong way and makes me think her guilty but she seems sincere so I'm currently inclined to think her innocent.
Brinniel--She didn't sit right with me at first but has since calmed down and I think her suspicios but not guilty.
Lalaith--Something is not right with her and if I were the seer I would dream of her.
Celuien--Sems innocent and sincere.
Gwathagor--Far too rash today to just up and vote. Almost as if he is a wolf wanting to show how quick he was willing to jump on that bandwagon. Makes me very suspicous.
McCaber--No idea.

I hope I didn't miss anybody. Due to my schedule and real life I haven't kept up as much as I would like but this is the impression I get from what I've read. Being that things on here have calmed and thinned a bit I should keep better track of what is going on.

Rikae · 06-08-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by morm

Rikae--Evil of some sort

Now, what makes you say that?

You don't even give a reason! Wolf.

What, just because I say I'm evil and my claim to be the GW caused the seer to reveal herself and get killed? Didn't tp tell you not to listen to anything I say? If I say I'm evil, I am obviously innocent.

Celuien · 06-09-2008, 01:05 PM

Starting with the obvious:

Bad to the bone:
Rikae
Nilpaurion Furrygund

Good:
the phantom

Making me suspicious:
Roa_Aoife - at first I thought the fighting with the phantom was just personalities facing off... but now that it's rather obvious that he's innocent, it's troubling to me that she's continuing to voice mistrust of him (ex: "I'm not certain we can trust phantom" in post 1110). Yes, phantom's assuredness can be... taxing. But he's the one person here I think can be trusted right now, so irritating or not, bossiness should get a pass. *shrugs*

And also suspicious for initially trusting evil-Rikae's GW impersonation yesterday.

Slightly less suspicious:
Lommy - something felt funny about her reactions to the events yesterday, as pointed out by others. I have nothing to add to those comments.

Probably good:
morm
Lalaith
Gwathagor
sally
Legate

Now for the largest category....

I can't tell
Greenie
Shasta
Izzy
Eönwe
Kath
The Lhunatic
Durelin
Brinniel
McCaber

Will think some more on that category.

And I think that's everyone.

Rikae · 06-08-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

edit: xed with Rikae who pretends to be the EW. Nice.

I'm pretending? Well, I guess that makes me a wolf, then. Lynch me! I dare you, sis-in-law!

Thinlómien · 06-08-2008, 05:42 PM

Every cell in me urges me not to follow phantom's directions. I'm not always bad at taking orders, but I'm bad at taking orders from haughty people who behave all too self-consciously and annoy me and whom I'm not sure if I can trust. *le sigh* I mean, I think I can trust tp but I'm not sure, this game is looking more and more complicated...

On the other hand, I was planning to do such a summary toDay anyway, just to force myself to think about some people I have so stupidly let fly under my radar.

And I can't think of any harm that doing it would bring. So, phantom, know this: when (if?) I do the summary, I'm doing it because I planned to do so, not because you requested it. Period.

I also recommed others not to be as rebellious-spirited as I am. I think it's a very good idea to make everybody make a summary... we must just swallow our pride and let tp boss us around... (I can see how he enjoys the situation...)

edit: xed with everybody who posted after me

06-08-2008, 07:01 PM	#5
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	A Little Green--No real read on her, pretty quiet. Shastanis Althreduin--A bit too opinionated and not willing to listen to reason or at least give what the phantom says a shot. He seems to inclinced to distrust everybody Isabellkaya--A good possible 'under the radar' wolf Thinlómien --Like always I think she's evil but I don't have any real good reason to think this. Nilpaurion Felagund--He feels right to me. I think Nilp is somebody we should trust Eönwë--No read Kath--She may have spoken less than me up to this point. Satansaloser--Seems all over the place and a mass poster. I'm not sure I see eye to eye with her and she hounds a lot of trivial points but overall I think her innocent. Rikae--Evil of some sort the phantom--I think he is gifted and most likely not turned last night. I am willing to listen to him if what he says makes sense. He has been the voice of reason to me and I have looked to him for leadership. Lhunardawen--Sincere enough and seems all right. Durelin --shrugs Roa_Aoife --sigh I never know what to think of her. Her style tends to rub me the wrong way and makes me think her guilty but she seems sincere so I'm currently inclined to think her innocent. Brinniel--She didn't sit right with me at first but has since calmed down and I think her suspicios but not guilty. Lalaith--Something is not right with her and if I were the seer I would dream of her. Celuien--Sems innocent and sincere. Gwathagor--Far too rash today to just up and vote. Almost as if he is a wolf wanting to show how quick he was willing to jump on that bandwagon. Makes me very suspicous. McCaber--No idea. I hope I didn't miss anybody. Due to my schedule and real life I haven't kept up as much as I would like but this is the impression I get from what I've read. Being that things on here have calmed and thinned a bit I should keep better track of what is going on. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

06-09-2008, 01:05 PM	#7
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	List Starting with the obvious: Bad to the bone: Rikae Nilpaurion Furrygund Good: the phantom Making me suspicious: Roa_Aoife - at first I thought the fighting with the phantom was just personalities facing off... but now that it's rather obvious that he's innocent, it's troubling to me that she's continuing to voice mistrust of him (ex: "I'm not certain we can trust phantom" in post 1110). Yes, phantom's assuredness can be... taxing. But he's the one person here I think can be trusted right now, so irritating or not, bossiness should get a pass. shrugs And also suspicious for initially trusting evil-Rikae's GW impersonation yesterday. Slightly less suspicious: Lommy - something felt funny about her reactions to the events yesterday, as pointed out by others. I have nothing to add to those comments. Probably good: morm Lalaith Gwathagor sally Legate Now for the largest category.... I can't tell Greenie Shasta Izzy Eönwe Kath The Lhunatic Durelin Brinniel McCaber Will think some more on that category. And I think that's everyone. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff. Last edited by Celuien; 06-09-2008 at 01:06 PM. Reason: Crossed with everyone from Lal at post 1145

06-08-2008, 05:42 PM	#9
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Every cell in me urges me not to follow phantom's directions. I'm not always bad at taking orders, but I'm bad at taking orders from haughty people who behave all too self-consciously and annoy me and whom I'm not sure if I can trust. le sigh I mean, I think I can trust tp but I'm not sure, this game is looking more and more complicated... On the other hand, I was planning to do such a summary toDay anyway, just to force myself to think about some people I have so stupidly let fly under my radar. And I can't think of any harm that doing it would bring. So, phantom, know this: when (if?) I do the summary, I'm doing it because I planned to do so, not because you requested it. Period. I also recommed others not to be as rebellious-spirited as I am. I think it's a very good idea to make everybody make a summary... we must just swallow our pride and let tp boss us around... (I can see how he enjoys the situation...) edit: xed with everybody who posted after me __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris