Dueling Wizards Werewolf II discussion thread

[Cailín]

Sorry for my prolonged silence - all the family and relationship debates were a bit too overwhelming.

Durelin, I am happy to adopt you if you wish. Not sure how I feel about having given birth to twins (it seems painful and confusing to me), but it would undoubtedly be nice for Lhuna to have someone else to blame for stealing cookies and terrorising the guinea pigs. If you poison them, though, I will be forced to disown you.

And indeed, I am not husbandless, but Nilp and I do seem to be orphans.

Mod-fire, hurrah!

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by Cailín

Durelin, I am happy to adopt you if you wish. Not sure how I feel about having given birth to twins (it seems painful and confusing to me), but it would undoubtedly be nice for Lhuna to have someone else to blame for stealing cookies and terrorising the guinea pigs. If you poison them, though, I will be forced to disown you.

So Durelin's younger? Yay, I have someone on whom to test the meds (aside from the guinea pigs, that is).

Don't worry, mum, I don't dissect your guinea pigs.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

For now I started thinking that a couple of years from now, I'll mod DW III and it will have lovers in it to make everything even more messy...

You, Lommy, are evil.

[Nogrod]

I have now upgraded Eönwë to be the son of Lommy and Nilp.

I will not move Shasta to be Greenie's husband unless I hear from either or both of them if they agree.

If Roa and Rikae will be sisters that would finally bring this village together binding both families with a tie. There are pros and cons in that. It's up to you Rikae and Roa to decide. I'm fine with you being sisters as well as not being.


The rules have been upgraded as well. Check the game thread. The rules are in three different posts.

First there are the basic rulings & what a villager should know.

Secondly there are the rules important to the wolves & gifteds.

Finally there are the rules for wizards and hardcore players.


There are still a few days to change them so please take your time to check them and give me your opinions of them here in this thread before the game begins.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

*goes down on one knee*

Greenie, will you marry me?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

*goes down on one knee*

Greenie, will you marry me?

*hugs* Grandfather! I'm so excited you agreed to play!

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Oh dear, I see a swift rap with a cane in your future, Sally, my beloved granddaughter. <_<;;

(No, just kidding. :P)

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

If Roa and Rikae will be sisters that would finally bring this village together binding both families with a tie. There are pros and cons in that. It's up to you Rikae and Roa to decide. I'm fine with you being sisters as well as not being.

Not necessarily. Our relationship could be complicated by the divide between the families, forcing us to chose sometimes between siding with our husbands or siding with our sister. How can we choose?!?!?! Oh, the torment!

I'm going to send this game to a soap opera somewhere.

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by Lommy

And the lovers are of course the wizards (now there's a Romeo&Juliet story for you ) - they die when the other one dies anyway...

Originally Posted by Roa

I'm going to send this game to a soap opera somewhere.

... All My Wolves?

Days of Our Wizards?

or, One Vote to Live?

Originally Posted by Legate

I am for modfire, but only for the "light" modfire, i.e. not posting consequently for two days at all. I am also doing that for personal reasons and for well knowing that it can happen. Or then, make it the "strong" modfire, but prolongate it to three days (but then, I think three are too long - two would be better, but only with the "lite" version).

From my rather shoddy track record at voting right after the deadline and having an annoying time zone, I guess I will have to agree to this, except I don't like the idea of making the modfire too complicated.
Our game already is more confusing than a Sim's neighbourhood , so if strong modfire is agreed upon I am fine with it. Only thing I might add is that the modfire remain on completely outside-of-game terms and unaffected by bandwagons (i.e. it doesn't become a tool), such as in the case of someone only posting once a day to say they'll be gone and never returning before deadline, or no posting throughout. Though I'm sure the modfire will stay pretty straight forward.

I dunno if I've confirmed any of my role information, but I'm good to go and everything seems more or less in order.
Okay, off to study for finals...

~ Ka

[Roa_Aoife]

Before I post the final family chart (because I am not doing it again), here are some things I'd like to check up on:

Ages: Eonwe and Durelin- how old?

Professions: Celuien, Morm, Kitanna, Kath, and Eonwe- do have jobs and if so, what are they?

Daiting: Any other couples I should know about? Lovers, perhaps?

Everyone, please be sure to review the last chart I posted and double check to make sure everything is correct for you.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Professions: Celuien, Morm, Kitanna, Kath, and Eonwe- do have jobs and if so, what are they?

I had planned to claim lonely goat herder, but opted not to since Legate and phantom are already sheep herders. So everyone village, town, city, place with two houses in it, needs a tavern wench. Gladly shall I fill that role.

[Eönwë]

Sorry for missing out on this thread for a few days.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I have now upgraded Eönwë to be the son of Lommy and Nilp.

Thank you for accepting me as a son Lommy and Nilp. But how old does that make me?

[Durelin]

Roa - I'd like to really be an evil twin, not just an evil sister, so I'll go with 20 as well, though we'll say I am the technically younger twin.

Thanks for tackling the chart!!

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Thank you for accepting me as a son Lommy and Nilp. But how old does that make me?

Your sisters are 20 and 17. Do you want to be the oldest, youngest, or middle child? And do you want to have a profession? If you're young enough to be in school, I need a teacher's pet.

Originally Posted by Durelin

Roa - I'd like to really be an evil twin, not just an evil sister, so I'll go with 20 as well, though we'll say I am the technically younger twin.

Got it.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Would you add Eomer into the chart as Cailín's husband? He will be in the narration of Night1 and if he will actually play as well in a situation when Cailín can't it would be nice to have him on board there as well.

And a minor correction: Gwath is a highwayman but his brother McCaber is a henchman. So they are not both highwaymen.

Done and done.

I still need professions from Morm and Celuien. Anyone know where they are?

[Macalaure]

One last question about the rules:

Originally Posted by the Rules

The number of gifteds the GW can scry is three eg. one each. One that dies can be replaced on the next Night.

What if a gifted is unscried by the EW? Does the person scried by the GW (if not evil) automatically become the new gifted even when his roster was full when he scried, or is "unscried" treated the same way as "killed" in this regard?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Oh no, how could you? Now that you've mentioned it and I do in fact have too much time on my hands, I'm actually considering creating the neighbourhood myself...

Hehe.

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

So long as Brinn keeps an eye on her sister.... And keeps those trouble-making cousins of hers away.

Speaking about me, eh?
Mom!! Aunt Roa is being nasty!

Originally Posted by Macalaure

What if a gifted is unscried by the EW? Does the person scried by the GW (if not evil) automatically become the new gifted even when his roster was full when he scried, or is "unscried" treated the same way as "killed" in this regard?

In the first DW there was

Order of Night Activities:
1. Evil wizard picks whom to curse.
2. Good wizard pickes whom to scry.
3. Affected players are informed of results of #1 & #2 (if both wizards pick same villager, this phase gets longer but is completed before the next phase begins).

and if the same were to apply to here, the one the GW picked would become a new gifted immediately.
Yet I don't really know what to think of it. I mean, if the GW has her roster full and can't scry a new gifted that night, she can partly replace the lost one herself (by working as a seer or whatever her ability was). Therefore it might be fairer if the GW got to scry a new one only the following night. What do you others think?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

if the GW has her roster full and can't scry a new gifted that night, she can partly replace the lost one herself (by working as a seer or whatever her ability was). Therefore it might be fairer if the GW got to scry a new one only the following night. What do you others think?

I think we discussed this already...

But any issue that is unclear should be clarified.

There will be no immediate "replacements". If a gifted dies during the Night the GW can scry her roster full the next Night the earliest.

First of all there is no basic difference between the two options as the gifteds only work at Nights with special powers (and if the gift can be reassigned in the beginning of the next Night then there is no loss from the GW's viewpoint as the new gifted is fully operational that Night).

Secondly when scrying her roster full the GW is after the EW eg. trying to find out who she is. That is not automatically the same person she would like to have as her gifted so we should leave the choices to the GW and not force them upon her.



I'd like to see one or two players more (30 would be just great!). Rune and Mith are busy as well as Oddwen. Firefoot has not answered my call.

Then there were both Holby and Zali who said they were interested in joining the game earlier but of whom I have heard nothing since. If someone of you has more direct contacts with them please ask what is their situation.

If you know of anyone not yet playing feel free to invite them in the game. We still have two days before the game starts!

And don't get me wrong: I'm quite happy with the size of the village. Thirty would just be magnificient and a bit tougher game.