Dueling Wizards Werewolf II discussion thread

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Noggins-Woggins

The wizards can't be lynched.

So if a wizard is voted out, it means that s/he is revealed because s/he isn't lynched regardless of the amount of votes s/he receives?

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

I think a good way of redressing the balance might be to allow the GW to 'regift' each role once. (I mean if the original holder is killed)
What do you reckon?

I think that in the last game the GW's picks were only limited so that he could have only one seer, one ranger and one hunter at a time. I think it's a better way of limiting the gifteds than banning renamings in case the original gifted dies or becomes ungifted.

Originally Posted by Legate

I don't know yet about playing, it will be running right during my exam terms as it seems. Although... *ahem* Well there's another thing which could decide it better: I am going to be away on the last week in June... will the game continue on that, Nog? What do you think?

I'm not Nogrod, but I can say this: last time the game lasted for two weeks, but there were rather many people alive when it ended. But I don't think it should last more than three weeks (?) and one must be lucky to survive to the end...

And speaking of the last game, here's the link if someone is interested to have a look.

Originally Posted by Greenie

I thought I could be Mac and Lommy's mother if you want one.

And Kath said it is weird I'm her mum... But yes, Greenie dear, that'd be great if you ask me.

And lastly, I didn't understand Nogrod's wolf-kill possibilities either. I think my suggestion would make more sense. I'm sure you'll be able to make it fit the story in some way...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

So if a wizard is voted out, it means that s/he is revealed because s/he isn't lynched regardless of the amount of votes s/he receives?

Yes indeed.

Originally Posted by Legate

I am going to be away on the last week in June... will the game continue on that, Nog?

The last game took exactly two weeks. So if we start at the last days of May / first days of June you should have no problem Legate.

Originally Posted by Kath

Um, Nog, aren't your two possibilities the same? Or are you saying that either a) two kills if there are three wolves, or b) two kills if there are more than three wolves?

That's the difference I'm after and what I meant... Sorry if I didn't make myself clear enough on that. So should the wolves have two kills from the beginning (the rule being "if there are three wolves then two kills") or whether there would need to be more than three to give the wolves the second kill?

Originally Posted by Lalaith

think a good way of redressing the balance might be to allow the GW to 'regift' each role once. (I mean if the original holder is killed)

Yes. "Regifting" will be on in this game for the GW. But the question remains whether there shoould be limits to scrying in the first place...

[Brinniel]

Dearest Kath,
Will you be my life partner?

And would anyone like a twin sister? I've always wanted a twin...

About deadlines: I vote for the latest possible (11pm).

Anyways, I'm sure I'll have plenty of questions...but my brain needs a little while to absorb the rules first...

EDIT: Oh and Greenie, I'll be your apprentice.

[Lalaith]

I think that in the last game the GW's picks were only limited so that he could have only one seer, one ranger and one hunter at a time. I think it's a better way of limiting the gifteds than banning renamings in case the original gifted dies or becomes ungifted

Yes, I think you're right. I can't remember now, but I'll go back and check.
All I really remember from last time was being in the car on the way down to France, trying to log on to the site from my phone, trying to save myself on that last day. Unsuccessfully.
"Bowl of petunias". Diamond will know what I mean.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

And would anyone like a twin sister? I've always wanted a twin...

Brinn, if you'll take me I've always wanted a twin too.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

The last game took exactly two weeks. So if we start at the last days of May / first days of June you should have no problem Legate.

If by "no problem" you mean at least two big exams during that time, then yes However a game like this is something that doesn't happen everyday, that much is clear. *sigh* I don't know. I must think of pros and cons, and if it's possible at all...

[Cailín]

Diamond! I am so pleased you're joining.

I have been looking at the old thread again - a good read. I can recommend it to all. It made me quite nostalgic, especially when I realised Nogrod was still a WW newbie back then (but a strong player, no doubt). Ah, times change.

I am still interested in adopting a child. I'm afraid your father would be away overseas to conquer distant lands, but there'd still be cookies.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Cailín

It made me quite nostalgic, especially when I realised Nogrod was still a WW newbie back then (but a strong player, no doubt). Ah, times change.

They do indeed! I'm not sure if I'd need to be ashamed of that game myself or not... Probably I should.

I try to hang on with these relationships... Hopefully I can produce you a map / tree of them after all is settled. Or would Hookbill wish to produce one this time as well?

[Nogrod]

About the dealine...

The "latest possible" have been voiced a few times - being 11PM GMT. That is 2AM my time but as I am on vacation by then (from May 31st) I can make it that. We're kind of late nigth stalkers here anyway...

[Kath]

Dearest Kath,
Will you be my life partner?

Hah! Go on then Brinn. This family is growing well!

[Nogrod]

Should I count you in Legate?

About the number of kills of the wolves. What is it you don't see - or what is it I say in such a muddled way that no one understands?

The question is whether three wolves can make two kills or do we need a fourth for them to make two kills. That has a big implication as if no wolf is killed on Day1 the wolves can start with two kills in the beginning of the game (Night2) and if no wolf is gotten the next Day they will have at least two Nights more of two kills per Night - if three wolves are enough for two kills per Night.

If we say three wolves are not enough for there being two nightly kills the wolves / EW actually need to play well to earn the second kill. On the other occasion they will get two kills for granted form the beginning unless they lose one of them on Day1.

[satansaloser2005]

Whoa buddy. I'm confused. I need to look back at everything with more than just a scanning eye.

Oh, and Noggie, I'm still in with a question mark dearie. Need to finalize my summer work schedule before I can give you an absolute "YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!".

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Di

I might have to live out in the shed in secret though if your adoptive parents only wanted one child. You know, a son to do the chores.

Only wanted one child? You should know us better.

All adoptive children are gladly accepted. Where there's room for one, there's room for... umm... more than one. Don't worry about sleeping in the shed - now that we have a son to do the chores, we can have a daughter to treat as Little Miss Princess.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

There will be a special arrangement on Night1 though when both wizards will produce a list of six to the mod(s) from which the minions will be dealt to them randomly (looking that neither wizard gets to know the identity of the other one) and from which the GW can then deal the gifts according to her will.

I don't mean to be nitpicky, but if both wizards get three minions on Night1, then, with a list size of 6, there could be a choice dilemma in the unlikely case that both wizards give five identical names plus the respective enemy wizard. Make it 7.

Originally Posted by Lommy

In the previous game, there was a limit that the GW could only name one seer, one ranger and one hunter. Will there be such a limit again? I know you haven't decided how many gifteds there can be in total, but will there be some sort of ratios, like one third of them should be of each kind or will you let the GW decide what kind of giteds she wants? Or will you let her decide freely, but set some limits, like "there must be one gifted of each kind all the time, the rest can be whatever" or "there can only be two seers at most at a time"?

I prefer to have no more than the regular trio would - plus regifting, of course.

A random suggestion about what to do when the Good Wizard would be able to create additional gifteds: what about not turning that additional person into a permanent gifted, but just give the Wizard the possibility to communicate with that individual for that one night? This won't make the gifteds too strong, but will still provide them with an advantage.

Originally Posted by Grandma Green

I thought I could be Mac and Lommy's mother if you want one.

Great!

[Diamond18]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Only wanted one child? You should know us better.

All adoptive children are gladly accepted. Where there's room for one, there's room for... umm... more than one. Don't worry about sleeping in the shed - now that we have a son to do the chores, we can have a daughter to treat as Little Miss Princess.

Ah, the family dynamic is already forming.