Werewolf XLII, Mist in the Barrow Downs

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Yes... but actually, even casually stating your belief in a fellow-wolf's innocence can be rather risky. Once you're lynched and proven a wolf, anyone you said nice things about gets looked at very carefully.

On the other, A Little Green's last post does come across a bit... sugary. Hmmn.

Tip: you also want to watch out for people whose interactions seem "staged", if you know what I mean. Wolves quite often claim to suspect one another.

I agree whole-heartedly with you here.

EDIT: How many werewolves are there?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Meneltarmacil

Shasta is still a bit of a concern, due to the reasons I mentioned earlier, plus his suspicions of people because of their in-character actions don't strike me well either.

Pfft. This is how I start off every game. You may not have noticed, since I die at the beginning every game.

[satansaloser2005]

Sally stumbled into the room with a look of utter exhaustion on her face. "How much I have done today, and yet nothing accomplished, especially in the way of finding werewolves! For this I do apologize, but my logic is not up to its usual standard Perhaps if you gave me a minute I could....What was I talking about again?"
She stood in the middle of the group, raking through her hair with her fingers and staring at her fellow players' faces, then to the surprise of everyone slumped down on the floor and fell unconcious.
The others, though concerned, had bigger fish to fry and continued their discussions, frivolous though they may prove to be, and set Sally carefully aside so that she could rest for a while. Once, she sat up suddenly and shouted "KEEL! Keel won vif neem oof soooodaaaa...." then flopped back down again.
"What was that she said?" asked Nerwen.
"Haven't the slightest," admitted Shasta. "Something about a keel and a soda....maybe she went out for a boat ride and had something bad to drink?"
"Hush, you two," remarked Greenie the Stepmother. "We must get back to business. We have a wolf to catch yet before the sunset. Concentrate, you slackers, and leave that silly one to her sleep, or I'll-"
Her scolding was interrupted when Sally leaped up from her resting place, eyes wild and clearly not awake, and screamed....

++Shasta

....then ran toward the object of her rant and looked him square in the eye, opened her mouth to speak to him privately, and....passed out, not to be awakened again until the dawn of the next day.


Note: Hopefully I won't start a bandwagon on this poor guy but I feel useless if I don't vote and I've been completely out of whack the last couple days so I haven't been able to sort out a lot of today's posts. Besides, I know that if I don't vote before I go to bed (for I really am sick and therefore need to get some sleep) I won't vote at all because I won't want to get up in the morning. Here's hoping that the rest of you all enjoy the rest of your Day though, Shasta included (and for the record, I felt the urge to random since I couldn't come up with anything at the moment, so I figured I may as well give someone a good giggle with the pop/soda joke. I promise a substantial vote the next Day.)

EDIT: Oh, by the way, I don't know if it was mentioned, but are there retractable votes? Just for future reference

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Shasta laughed. "Oh dear, it seems to be happening yet again... Something tells me maybe I shouldn't have caved in and joined this ragtag band."

He stood up on a rock and surveyed everyone.

"Given what I've heard from everyone today, and that I seem to be catching a bit of a cold, and that it's gone two in the morning, I'm going to have to vote now. The lucky recipient of my vote is -

++Menel

simply because I think he should know by now, given the number of games we've both participated in, that this is how I begin every game, and his reason for suspecting me has been echoed by at least one person Day 1 in every other game."

Shasta then jumped down off the rock and headed for his bed.

[Macalaure]

I read over Aganzir's posts again and decided that whatever I saw yesterday isn't there anymore.

Of McCaber I'm really not sure.

Shasta is a question mark, but he deserves to be left alive for a second Day once in a while.

Menel, Rikae, and Sally are innocent. Reason: feeling.

Gwatha hasn't said much and what he said wouldn't be overly alarming if only he hadn't played the "I'm confused about the rules"-card a little too often.

I just tried to paraphrase Nogrod's position on Lily, but it was not as easy as I thought it would be, so I'll just say I agree with him. Nogrod is making a lot of sense (although I disagree with many of his conclusions). Being "concise" suits him.

Originally Posted by Lommy

Something in the way that this comes so suddenly yet carefully formed just doesn't sit right with me. Besides, it urges people to act oddly and cause confusion. And most importantly, like Rikae here said, he takes care of acting somewhat weirdly himself - a great way of avoiding getting lynched, isn't it?"

Eh? What do you mean by "suddenly yet carefully formed"? And "Making people act oddly" is exactly what I had in mind. I never claimed it was otherwise.
Anyway, what's more suspicious is that this was preceded by

Originally Posted by Lommy

While I agree that he talks, in a way, sense

, which is a relativization of the suspicion that followed. Relativated suspicion manages to make me feel quite uneasy about people.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I'm still not sure what to make of Mac. Was he trying to set a wolf-trap, as he claims? Or is he furry himself, and backed away from his scheme when he saw ii wasn't working? Either way, it was a rather dangerous ploy. If he's a wolf, he risked drawing suspicion on himself– if not, he risked giving the wolves the go-ahead to lynch helpful innocents.

Of course, this is exactly what I did not have in mind. I was looking for those who were most eager to keep themselves out of trouble while adding tinder to the flames. For example, persons who ask questions without giving their own opinion hoping that other make up their minds to answer them in order to lynch an innocent without making ones hands bloody. Wait....

Originally Posted by Nerwen

what I'm curious about is what you would have done had it worked?

ummm, lynched the wolf?
...and what do you mean, had it worked.


Right now, I'm suspicious of A Wolfy Green, Thinwólfien, and Nerwolf, in a slight Day-One-ish way. In the same manner, I think Rikae, Nogrod, Menel, and Sally are innocent. Of the rest I'm unsure.

[Nerwen]

Like Sally before her, Nerwen staggered into the chamber, bruised and bleeding. "Curse this mist!" she muttered. "I must have walked into dozens of standing stones, not to mention rolling down a hill at one point.

But I thought I heard a voice– or voices– asking about the rules?

Delving in the depths of my Elvish memory, I seem to recall that there are three werewolves, no retractable votes (or if there are, the mods forgot to tell us), and that if there's a tie, the result will be decided by coin-toss. Everyone happy now?"

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Note: Hopefully I won't start a bandwagon on this poor guy but I feel useless if I don't vote and I've been completely out of whack the last couple days so I haven't been able to sort out a lot of today's posts. Besides, I know that if I don't vote before I go to bed (for I really am sick and therefore need to get some sleep) I won't vote at all because I won't want to get up in the morning. Here's hoping that the rest of you all enjoy the rest of your Day though, Shasta included (and for the record, I felt the urge to random since I couldn't come up with anything at the moment, so I figured I may as well give someone a good giggle with the pop/soda joke. I promise a substantial vote the next Day.)

Anyone else not like that last post of Sally's? She seems very eager to cover herself, doesn't she? (On the other hand, if she's indeed sick she may not be thinking clearly.)

Edit: X'd with Macalaure.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

ummm, lynched the wolf?
...and what do you mean, had it worked.

I mean, if your idea was to encourage the wolves to act silly, and to go after anyone who was being helpful (thus revealing themselves), how did you plan to accuse them– when you'd previously said what they were doing was the hallmark of innocence?

Edit: X'd with Legate.

[Thinlómien]

Thinlómien's player yawned and then she tried to cast a critical look at herself. "When I went to sleep and set the alarm clock, I did not of course realise that the deadline is so early that I have to play werewolf and vote before I leave to my little art thing..." she mumbled, looking at the computer screen. "Let's go then, and no novels this time."

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Yes... but actually, even casually stating your belief in a fellow-wolf's innocence can be rather risky. Once you're lynched and proven a wolf, anyone you said nice things about gets looked at very carefully.

Yes, but often they're just disregarded as possible double bluff.

Originally Posted by Mac

Eh? What do you mean by "suddenly yet carefully formed"?

I really can't explain it better than that.

Originally Posted by Mac

And "Making people act oddly" is exactly what I had in mind. I never claimed it was otherwise.

Does the fact that you admit you try to put this village into a state of confusion make the act less suspicious? I don't think so.

Originally Posted by Mac

which is a relativization of the suspicion that followed. Relativated suspicion manages to make me feel quite uneasy about people.

That is jolly true, but you ought to know by now that I do it always.

I still think there's a wolf hiding among Mac and Rikae and therefore I'm going to vote

++Macalaure

because he seems more suspicious of the two.

And don't worry, if I'm still alive, I will be able to contribute more on the Days to come.

EDIT: xed with Agan x2

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

A group of people was walking down a half-empty street in the low light.
"It was a good game," one of them said.
"Anyway, the Elves part was the best," said the once-again DM, "or at least I liked it the most."
"Yea, definitely. Well, I was almost dead all the time."
"How comes you picked the worst spots in the battle?"
"No idea. We crossed the river and I run just into the swordsman who hit me for 30 damage in one round. Then I chose to search just under the tree on which that sniper was sitting. Then..."
"Hey, it's my bus. All right, see you later."
The party disbanded. Everyone went to their homes, by bus, by tram, by walk... only the DM did not do so. He knew, when this was over, that he has to go back.
He turned his back on the city and walked away, and soon, the chill and the fog appeared and the DM was no more.
***
"They are waiting for you, Grimburgoth," the voice from above spoke. The Chieftain of the Dark Rangers nodded, took on his black hood and using a 5th level spell he should not have in his list, he transported into the enclosed barrow.


All right, friends. I just read what happened around here, and I am not going to be around for long, as I am here just to come and go. But as it has been said elsewhere, that's only today. I haven't read all as deeply as I would like, but I hope to be able now to voice the things that made impact on me when reading now in a short (edit: *ahem* looks at the post below: well...) and comprehensible way.

I am a little concerned by the way the things went toDay this far. I mean, from what I read, I got the impression that lot of the talk on the first page went only around half-joking suspicions, which in some mysterious way turned into serious ones. Or maybe not, that's the worst thing about it, I can't tell: maybe they were supposed to be (or to look) serious from the start, which would be indeed critical. It started with Nogrod having something red in his towel, to which - a normal in-character thing - a load of responses mainly from sally, a little also Shasta and consequently more from LG followed. Let me see - there are two options. A) Either they are jokes, then I say there is too many of them and no real substance in almost all posts of the named people. Not necessary to say that such a way of playing is absolutely unproductive. One or two joking or in-character things are no problem, but when there is a fifty-post dialogue made from them, you know. B) They are serious, then obviously it's silly as well - basing suspicions on Nogrod on the fact that he carried a red towel doesn't need any comment, I believe.

Otherwise, there was this thing about Mac saying we lynch a conventional type person. I believe Aganzir responded to it quite right and I can't see how it could have been misinterpretated: focusing on certain "ideology" is not a way to really look for wolves. It is an individual focus on each person, and everyone choosing to lynch the one who, to him, seems suspicious. That does not mean "odd-behaving", that means, well, suspicious. Even behaving "conventionally" may be considered suspicious, sometimes, and sometimes "odd-behaving" beople are suspicious.

Concerning people, just what I got from what I read: I mentioned already above the strange joke-or-not-joke talkers, i.e. Sally, LG and to lesser extent, Shasta. About Mac I don't know. Rikae's posts look more like in her normal unpleasant style, so nothing particularly suspicious on her this far. Likewise, Aganzir this far looks quite fine, and I daresay not in her typical innocent-looking way, but she's kinda bit, how to say it, aggressive, so I would like to hope at last once I could think her innocent and be right about it. Lommy posted just once, but her one post looks also quite like a normal innocent Lommy. I must say also that this far, Gwathagor makes the impression of an innocent newbie rather than a wolf-newbie, although of course not knowing him, I am not setting it as standard. About Menel, McCaber and Nerwen I can't say anything, and strangely, also about Nogrod who made a lot less input that I would expect from him. What's going on, Noggins? (Not that I don't like having less and shorter things to read, but... Or is there anything more sinister in the background, Nog?)

One more serious matter to solve. Although I'd like to hear about all of this, I am most worried about Sally, because of what I said above and because of the last post:

Originally Posted by sally

Hopefully I won't start a bandwagon on this poor guy

Originally Posted by sally

Here's hoping that the rest of you all enjoy the rest of your Day though, Shasta included (and for the record, I felt the urge to random since I couldn't come up with anything at the moment, so I figured I may as well give someone a good giggle with the pop/soda joke. I promise a substantial vote the next Day.)

So, wait- do I understand correctly, you say that your vote is merely a random one? I can understand that you have to vote now, for I have as well, as I won't be around till DL, but surely there can be something more than just voting randomly? I don't like also the "hopefully I won't start a bandwagon" thing. A person who wants to get someone lynched in fact wants to start a bandwagon - well, not a bandwagon, but in the meaning that she wants to find support if she thinks she has found a wolf. And of course, mainly, for a wolf it's an alibism: the more if you say you vote randomly! Therefore, my vote today is

++Sally

Anyway, I will be leaving now, so that's about it. As I said, nothing much from me toDay, but I hope it will be better in the future and hope to see you toMorrow. I will have a lot more time to participate and with more time to make my mind on things. Good luck.

EDIT: x-ed since shasta

[Aganzir]

Of those who have spoken this far, Mac looks the most suspicious. The way he seems to have decided to play is beyond my comprehension, and, well, he seems to be giving an over-honest impression. I said that his response (#81) to me was the most innocentish thing he had said during this day, but it really isn't, at least it's not somehow more innocent than his other posts. It's... when a wolf is trying people, it's more important than it is for an innocent to let everybody know that he wasn't being serious. I think Mac's eagerness to explain what he was doing looks like that.
He is saying things like "a wolf would have a reason to do what I did". When he's saying that while doing those things, it's easy to get the first impression that he can't be a wolf because if he was he wouldn't have said that. And that's the thing that worries me most about him.

On the other hand, I'm afraid that if Mac isn't a wolf he would be an easy day 1 lynch for the wolves.

Originally Posted by Gwathy

When do we have to decide who to lynch?

All votes should be cast before the deadline (which is 3 pm gmt / 9 am ct).

Originally Posted by Lommy

"Though I always think you're innocent, and you're always a wolf. So now that you seem suspicious, should I consider you innocentish?"

Quite right. I am deeply amused if you've got so used to my playing as a wolf that the first time I'm innocent since Rikae's game I look suspicious.

I don't know about Lommy... She looks mostly innocent but on the other hand she doesn't.

Originally Posted by Gwathy

Do you dream frequently?

Tsk tsk, that's something you should never ask a lady.

I don't like Shasta posting just in character, but that's not a reason to suspect him. At least he's posted more than usually on day 1s.

Sally is being quite much her normal self, which doesn't mean anything.

Originally Posted by Gwathy

EDIT: How many werewolves are there?

With how many persons were you plotting last night?
There are three. It's stated in the post that started night 1. Asking that isn't going to make me think you must be innocent because you don't know that.

I have to vote, well, soon, and at the moment my vote is likely to go to Mac.

edit: xed since Mac

[Aganzir]

++ Macalaure

Have to go now.