Gothmog as Pat - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Gordis · 01-31-2008, 01:17 PM

You realize, Legate, that making Gothmog a mortal appointed the WK's second by Sauron, you are inventing a very powerful charismatic new character - maybe higher ranking than the MOS. Yet Tolkien told us nothing about him. He told us much about MOS, but nothing about Gothmog.
Why?
Because he was a nazgul.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-31-2008, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis

You realize, Legate, that making Gothmog a mortal appointed the WK's second by Sauron, you are inventing a very powerful charismatic new character - maybe higher ranking than the MOS.

Higher ranking? No way! He was only some silly second captain in command for one attack. If he was a Man, had he not been from Mordor, he would have lower rank than this "Black Serpent" from Harad, for example - he was a King and Gothmog was second captain. If he was a Man, who knows how long he has been in the service. MoS was there for a very long time (for a Man, resp. Black Númenorean).

Quote:

Yet Tolkien told us nothing about him. He told us much about MOS, but nothing about Gothmog.
Why?
Because he was a nazgul.

No, because he was something else

Gordis · 01-31-2008, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Higher ranking? No way! He was only some silly second captain in command for one attack. If he was a Man, had he not been from Mordor, he would have lower rank than this "Black Serpent" from Harad, for example - he was a King and Gothmog was second captain. If he was a Man, who knows how long he has been in the service. MoS was there for a very long time (for a Man, resp. Black Númenorean).

You have to be not just "somebody" to be specially appointed second in command to the Witch King!
As for MOS, we know exactly how long he served Sauron - 68 years to be precise.

View Poll Results: Which race is Gothmog?
Nazgul	14	32.56%
Man	5	11.63%
Orc	15	34.88%
Other	9	20.93%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

01-31-2008, 01:17 PM	#1
Gordis Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 431	You realize, Legate, that making Gothmog a mortal appointed the WK's second by Sauron, you are inventing a very powerful charismatic new character - maybe higher ranking than the MOS. Yet Tolkien told us nothing about him. He told us much about MOS, but nothing about Gothmog. Why? Because he was a nazgul.