Ones to Marry - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Aganzir · 12-29-2007, 07:43 AM

Even though I identify with dwarves, I would never want to marry any dwarf. They're a too chauvinistic and jealous race for me.

I would marry Boromir.

I like his pride and self-confidence. He's a man who knows what he wants and gets it also (well, except the throne of Gondor, but who needs that anyway?). I'd have enough freedom & wouldn't have time to tire of him as he isn't home too much. One of the most important things is, though, that I don't think he's of a jealous sort. I just couldn't stand someone who needs to know where I am going, when I am coming back, whom I am meeting etc.

In the end, he dies, so I wouldn't have to spend all my life with him. Not that I couldn't do that but sometimes variatio delectat.

Romantic, aren't I?

Folwren · 12-29-2007, 09:02 AM

Jack Aubrey! Oh...LotR character? I've no idea.

This is ridiculous.

-- Folwren

Mithalwen · 12-29-2007, 02:07 PM

this is a no-brainer.

Faramir.

Mr Perfect

Not only is he kind, humourous, courageous, honourable, intelligent, a scholar as well as being a verray parfit gentil knight, but he is tall, dark and handsome and let us not forget, a Prince. And he likes gardens and has a nice taste in presents.

Then he loves a complex, spirited woman for herself as much as her beauty and their relationship promises to be happy and a true partnership. Yeats could be describing them:

"How many loved your moments of glad grace,
And loved your beauty with love false or true,
But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you,
And loved the sorrows of your changing face;"

Folwren · 12-30-2007, 11:28 AM

Yes, Mithalwen, Faramir would definitely be a very good choice. But all the same, I don't think I would quite choose him. Oddly enough, I would probably prefer Boromir....without the Ring, of course. I think Faramir would be entirely too quiet and laid back for me. I love him very, very much in the books and admire him greatly, but he's not my type. Kinda like Sam...he's my favorite character, but I would never, ever be happily married to him - not if I were like I am now.

-- Folwren

Bêthberry · 12-30-2007, 12:18 PM

I see that no one has chosen Grima, or Saruman, or perhaps even Shagrat.

It is very reassuring to see that Downers of the female persuasion have finally and truly disabused themselves of that old odd notion once prominent amongst the better half that a good woman could marry a scoundrel and reform him.

piosenniel · 12-30-2007, 01:31 PM

It's a Hobbit I fancy.

Rose's brother - Wilcome "Jolly" Cotton

Defended the Shire against Sharkey's Men in The Battle of Bywater, the last battle in The War of the Ring.

Guinevere · 12-30-2007, 03:04 PM

Though I am usually a rather indecisive person, this answer doesn't take me a second's hesitation:

Faramir!

For all the reasons that Mithalwen gave.
And I think his most striking character trait is his extraordinary empathy .
(I am speaking of Book- Faramir, of course! And in my imagination he looks like Anke Eissmann portrays him.)

(btw I love the beautiful verses by Yeats you gave, Mithalwen!)

Elmo · 01-11-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

I see that no one has chosen Grima, or Saruman, or perhaps even Shagrat.

It is very reassuring to see that Downers of the female persuasion have finally and truly disabused themselves of that old odd notion once prominent amongst the better half that a good woman could marry a scoundrel and reform him.

The real question we have here is are there any female orcs?

Lalaith · 01-11-2008, 03:57 PM

The only character in LotR who would be realistic marriage material for me would be Merry. Sensible, decent, but a really good laugh.

In my case however, (as I like tall men) he would also have to drink more Ent-Draught.

PS Actually on second thoughts, there's also Eomer - although there's not so much evidence of a sense of humour.

Gordis · 01-31-2008, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

I see that no one has chosen Grima, or Saruman, or perhaps even Shagrat.

It is very reassuring to see that Downers of the female persuasion have finally and truly disabused themselves of that old odd notion once prominent amongst the better half that a good woman could marry a scoundrel and reform him.

I don't think a good wife would have changed Shagrat or Saruman...

But if Eowyn loved Grima, he would have remained a good Rohan man he was born to be - Grima son of Galmond, the faithful King's advisor.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-31-2008, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Gordis

I don't think a good wife would have changed Shagrat or Saruman...

But if Eowyn loved Grima, he would have remained a good Rohan man he was born to be - Grima son of Galmond, the faithful King's advisor.

Well, I'd think otherwise and the two folks first... actually I pity that Galadriel was already married, because she and Saruman would have been a lovely pair

(only a tad dangerous for each other... I'm sure sooner or later they'll decide to rule the Middle-Earth. Hooray!)

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 01-31-2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

I see that no one has chosen Grima, or Saruman, or perhaps even Shagrat.

It is very reassuring to see that Downers of the female persuasion have finally and truly disabused themselves of that old odd notion once prominent amongst the better half that a good woman could marry a scoundrel and reform him.

Well, Saurman wouldn't scare me all that much... but Shagrat

oh my he's scary to put it in simple terms! Orcs are just filthy and mean! (at least Saurman is colorful!)

Mithalwen · 01-11-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Folwren

Yes, Mithalwen, Faramir would definitely be a very good choice. But all the same, I don't think I would quite choose him. Oddly enough, I would probably prefer Boromir....without the Ring, of course.

Well I am rather older than you so maybe I have realised that what you need is not the same as what you think you want. Boromir is more glamourous but I can't imagine him being a good husband and had shown no inclination to become one. I always think the fact that the heirs to Rohan and Gondor were single so late is a failure of hope. Not that there is anything wrong with being single late - I fear with Faramir as my benchmark I may be far too picky

.

I always feel that Eowyn would not be diminished or compromised by her marriage. Faramir would not break her spirit but help her channel it. Boromir would be too forceful and uncompromising. Faramir is not weak but he is more subtle - for want of a better word he is like a horse whisperer.

Oh Great Elven Warrior - no contest..... never liked Beren (and loathe Luthien). "So wet youcould shoot snipe off him". There are a lot of cute elf boys though.

Oh Bethberry - everyone knows it is easier to change the man than change the man

... besides you never get a receipt.

Gwathagor · 01-11-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Folwren

Jack Aubrey! Oh...LotR character? I've no idea.

This is ridiculous.

-- Folwren

Ha ha! Jack Aubrey...

MatthewM · 01-13-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

One of the most important things is, though, that I don't think he's of a jealous sort.

(Concerning Boromir)

I disagree with this entirely. I see jealousy in Boromir's character, for sure. Which I identify with

...you would hate me!

And for my answer, I wouldn't marry any of them, but, Eowyn!

Aganzir · 01-13-2008, 12:09 PM

You're right, MatthewM. What I meant with that, though, was that I don't think he'd be jealous about a sweet little wife like me.

12-29-2007, 07:43 AM	#1
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	Even though I identify with dwarves, I would never want to marry any dwarf. They're a too chauvinistic and jealous race for me. I would marry Boromir. I like his pride and self-confidence. He's a man who knows what he wants and gets it also (well, except the throne of Gondor, but who needs that anyway?). I'd have enough freedom & wouldn't have time to tire of him as he isn't home too much. One of the most important things is, though, that I don't think he's of a jealous sort. I just couldn't stand someone who needs to know where I am going, when I am coming back, whom I am meeting etc. In the end, he dies, so I wouldn't have to spend all my life with him. Not that I couldn't do that but sometimes variatio delectat. Romantic, aren't I? __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

12-29-2007, 09:02 AM	#2
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Jack Aubrey! Oh...LotR character? I've no idea. This is ridiculous. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

12-29-2007, 02:07 PM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Despite the many cute elf boys... this is a no-brainer. Faramir. Mr Perfect Not only is he kind, humourous, courageous, honourable, intelligent, a scholar as well as being a verray parfit gentil knight, but he is tall, dark and handsome and let us not forget, a Prince. And he likes gardens and has a nice taste in presents. Then he loves a complex, spirited woman for herself as much as her beauty and their relationship promises to be happy and a true partnership. Yeats could be describing them: "How many loved your moments of glad grace, And loved your beauty with love false or true, But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you, And loved the sorrows of your changing face;" __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

12-30-2007, 11:28 AM	#4
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Yes, Mithalwen, Faramir would definitely be a very good choice. But all the same, I don't think I would quite choose him. Oddly enough, I would probably prefer Boromir....without the Ring, of course. I think Faramir would be entirely too quiet and laid back for me. I love him very, very much in the books and admire him greatly, but he's not my type. Kinda like Sam...he's my favorite character, but I would never, ever be happily married to him - not if I were like I am now. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

12-30-2007, 12:18 PM	#5
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	Whereforth art thou Heathcliffe or Rochester? I see that no one has chosen Grima, or Saruman, or perhaps even Shagrat. It is very reassuring to see that Downers of the female persuasion have finally and truly disabused themselves of that old odd notion once prominent amongst the better half that a good woman could marry a scoundrel and reform him. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

12-30-2007, 01:31 PM	#6
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	It's a Hobbit I fancy. Rose's brother - Wilcome "Jolly" Cotton Defended the Shire against Sharkey's Men in The Battle of Bywater, the last battle in The War of the Ring. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

12-30-2007, 03:04 PM	#7
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Though I am usually a rather indecisive person, this answer doesn't take me a second's hesitation: Faramir! For all the reasons that Mithalwen gave. And I think his most striking character trait is his extraordinary empathy . (I am speaking of Book- Faramir, of course! And in my imagination he looks like Anke Eissmann portrays him.) (btw I love the beautiful verses by Yeats you gave, Mithalwen!) __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

01-11-2008, 03:57 PM	#9
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	The only character in LotR who would be realistic marriage material for me would be Merry. Sensible, decent, but a really good laugh. In my case however, (as I like tall men) he would also have to drink more Ent-Draught. PS Actually on second thoughts, there's also Eomer - although there's not so much evidence of a sense of humour. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

01-13-2008, 12:09 PM	#16
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	You're right, MatthewM. What I meant with that, though, was that I don't think he'd be jealous about a sweet little wife like me. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.