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Old 12-04-2007, 12:18 PM   #1
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In post 175 I talk about the voting pattern and conclude that the most likely based on that are Menel and Volo. In 215 I voted Volo based on my gut because honestly I didn't have anything better and wasn't fully caught up nor would I be on that day. In post 316 I bring up how Green spoke about Lommy and Volo and it is analagous to how I view wolves treating each other. Post 352 I give a short quote from Volo talking about Menel. Both seem wolfish...I've spent more time on Menel and so the interaction again reminds me of wolfishness.

So honestly, I haven't had much to go on with Volo but only voted for him once and I stated unequivocally that it was my gut and no real hard evidence. Up to today I don't think I had much by way of hard evidence. I still don't think I've got a full lock on anybody so I try to keep my mind open. Time is a finite resource for me so I focus my intentions where I feel they are needed most. With so much 'Kill Morm' talk I've been doing a bit more defending than I like but I have honestly been trying to bring up points against multiple people...you included Kuru. While my points seem valid to me, they probably are rubbish so generally ignored.

What I find odd is how annoyed you keep getting at my talking about wolf tactics...should I instead talk about seer tactics? I believe we are in the business of killing wolves...it's not odd to get a crimincal pychologist to think like a criminal does...I think it's very helpful to spot those trends and more than anything that is what I am trying to do. Yet, you reprimand me for it...why?

Also Kuru, I find it odd that while I have tried to bring up many points against many people you harp on Volo and the lack of things I've done there. Why focus in on that when I've said, again what I consider decent, things about others who look suspicious but yet I don't have the time to do lengthy posts about everyone or stay up till 3AM basically chatting instead of searching for wolves (Kuru I'm not pointing to you on this one just a little annoyed at having to spend that finite time reading irrelevant blather)

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Or do you have a very good reason why the last thing you'd want to do is say something that could definitively be pegged to you?
Come now Kuru, I think it's hard to believe that I have not been outspoken.
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:46 PM   #2
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Morm, I do agree with you about Volo, but it seems a bit strange that you immediately call wolf on Kuru as soon as he begins speaking out against you. Care to explain that?
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:54 PM   #3
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Morm, I do agree with you about Volo, but it seems a bit strange that you immediately call wolf on Kuru as soon as he begins speaking out against you. Care to explain that?
I think I have made some comments on that Shastanis. But a few others are that he is always to be watched, always! He is good at fooling people...that does not make him guilty but shouldn't be overlooked. Second, and it's something I have tried to work on but fail on occasion, when people suspect me for what I think to be flawed reasons I tend to suspect them. It's not all the time but I do have that habit on occasion and it might hold true here. I don't remember it coorelating with when he began to suspect me but let's be honest, we knew he wouldn't be here on day 2 and on day 1 there wasn't much to go on with him. So is it odd that on day 3 I suspect him based on more information that I have?
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:51 PM   #4
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I was beginning to feel better about morm after rereading his posts (based only on his own behaviour. I find nothing alarming in his posts), but obviously I was not as sharp-sighted as some people here. The novel posted by Lommy sounds possible... assuming that Lommy is innocent, of which I'm not too worried at the moment.

I'm going to be here until deadline, but I guess I'm voting sally, though in order to prevent a multi-lynch I can vote for someone else, too.

Voting this far

Farael - sally
Shasta - morm
Fea - sally (sally-2, morm-1)
Menel - morm (sally-2, morm-2)
Kath - Menel (sally-2, morm-2, Menel-1)
Mac - Volo (sally-2, morm-2, Menel-1, Volo-1)
morm - Menel (sally-2, morm-2, Menel-2, Volo-1)

8 votes still to come.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:04 PM   #5
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Well, back one hour before the deadline.

I think I will go with my decision from yesterday and vote for Sally, but I'll wait for a while.
In case you are an ordo, Sally please excuse me for this decision but this lack of explanation and all this confusion in your posts is making me suspect you.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:08 PM   #6
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Well, back one hour before the deadline.

I think I will go with my decision from yesterday and vote for Sally, but I'll wait for a while.
In case you are an ordo, Sally please excuse me for this decision but this lack of explanation and all this confusion in your posts is making me suspect you.

No hard feelings Might. If you must you must. And I must.

I'm not dumb enough to not vote today and thus sit back and be lynched. Give me a few minutes and I'll come up with my vote though. I'm not going to just vote to save myself, as that would be counterproductive and just plain terroristic. Saying unproductive stuff is one thing, voting for the heck of it is just plain wrong. So give me some time and hope my laptop doesn't die while I deliberate. Back in a minute or ten with my opinions.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:17 PM   #7
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Oh I hate myself for doing something so obvious. I've voted Morm every day, but between Morm and Menel, I find much more plausible guilt surrounding Morm. Volo is one of my top suspects as well, but that would create a quadruple lynch, and that would be just dumb of me. Sorry to be predictable but....

++Morm


Gah so what if people vote me because of my stubbornness. I'm going with my gut.

And may I make a request for the good of the village? I have three preferences of outcomes for today.

A: A wolf dies. I don't die. Obviously my favorite.
B: A wolf dies. I die. Sucks but at least we get a wolf. (double lynch eek i hate them)
C: I die and a voted ordo lives to see another morning.
D: I die and another ordo dies too. Please don't let this happen!


To put it another way, please lynch either me and a wolf, me alone, or just a wolf. I'd rather have the rest of you fine villagers survive and come quite a bit closer to finding a wolf (as I think today's votes will be instrumental to the wolf-catching) than for me to survive and for us all to still be flippfloppy and clueless.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:23 PM   #8
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Volo, you're my hero right now. You said everything I wanted to (well mostly) but can't because my laptop battery is dying. I'll be back right before deadline to see how things are going.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:42 PM   #9
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Day3

The third day seemed to inflame the emotions in the Shire. It was not sure whether it was the setback of losing a Sackville-Baggins (Sackville-Baggins or not but they were honourable and noteworthy hobbits anyway) or the ecxitement from last evening’s succesful lynching but the hobbits were really stirred and buzzing this Day.

First it looked like every finger pointed towards the old Harrybelly. This was the third Day indeed the fingers had pointed his way. But the old Morm had survived already two Days over his respectable years and he meant to survive this one as well. Especially Menel Furryface was on him in the morning hours.

But all the fuzz around the old Harrybelly was redirected as Sally Shortbrush stood up from the table of the youngsters and started running rampant. After a lot of talk most of the hobbits just didn’t understand the point of, she started to speak of a place called "Walmart" where she had visited that very same Day. At that point the other hobbits finally declared her insane. The question remained whether she was a wolf trying to act like one or whether the experiences of the last Days had just been too much for her.

So heated was the discussion indeed that the young Might of Greenholm actually proposed a double lynch this Day. It was the table of the elders that immediately turned that possibility down. A hobbit killing a hobbit was an issue still and with a double lynch the chances of killing one of their own were just too big. “The youngsters should hold their horses”, they said in concerto even if a few of them entertained the possibility of orchestrating a trial for it just to see how others would react to it.

That was except Lommy Baggins who was making a grand-theory of wolves with a speech that lasted from the dinner to the late-evening snack and ended with a reiteration of the idea of double-lynching both Sally and Morm.

"You Bagginses have always been a bit too daring to my taste", the Shrewthwacker said decidedly.

~*~

After a tight discussion and close voting it seemed that the old Harrybelly was leading comfortably.

"I'd rather vote for this young Shortbrush after all... and its better to be wrong once than wrong twice" called the Shrewthwacker

"Let's do something for we can't afford a double lynch!" Agan Sackville-Baggins said.

"We'll go your way then... " Lommy Baggins agreed.

And Sally passed the old Harrybelly in the votes.

"Lynch me if you feel like it but pay attention to how this came about", exclaimed Sally Shortbrush.

"Don't you even try Miss..." said Farael Twofoot and took a few steps towards the Shortbrush wit a raised candlestick in her hand.

"You'll die before the sun has set", Fea Briarpatch added swinging a small knife.

"We'll not double-kill anyone toDay and you're the one to go" said Lommy Baggins tucking up his sleeves.

"We need to get one anyway, there's no turning back now!" called Agan Sackville-Baggins. "Here's for my husband!" she cried and hammered a fork into her eye.

While Sally was still wailing from pain Kuru brought a table to bear and rammed it right over the Shortbrush.

~*~

But one hobbit had been sitting in the shades all the evening and now he stood up from the table of the youngsters.

"My vote is still pending and I will stick to my idea of a double lynch. So let the fiendish Harrybelly die too!" It was the Might of Greenholm whom everyone had kind of forgotten.

A loud murmur which soon changed into a restless stir went through the Green Dragon - or what was left of it.

Shasta of the River and Menel Furryface had to wake old Harrybelly from his dreams.

"You're dead as well gaffer...", Volo Proudfoot whispered to his ear.

"What! Lynched? Because of being suspicious or defensive? Now c'mon you youngsters... and by that I mean all of you except Fea and Kuru... I'm the ranger of the Shire and you should do well to keep away from me!"

"Oh you old crow! You don't fool me!" The Might bellowed and ran his tiny sword he had been carrying with him through Morm's stomach.

The blood was pouring and old Morm sat gasping for breath.

"Why don't you believe what I say..." he muttered and then fell down from the chair.

"Noooo!" cried Brinn Burrows.


~*~

It was silent for a while. No one had turned into anything and no forces of nature had run amok.

They had killed two hobbits. And one of them was their ranger.



The dead:
Nogrod (mod) - Noggie Boffin - beheaded and played soccer with on Night1
Nerwen (ordo) - Nerwen Hornblower - jumped to the river not to force anyone to kill another hobbit on Day1
Valier (ordo) - Vallen FurryFoot - skinned, grilled and served as a breakfast on Night2
Rikae (ordo) – Rikae Took - left the Hobbitton to find aid from somewhere in the middle of Day2
A Little Green (the Breath) - Lilla Greenhand - beaten to death by the hobbits on Day2
Legate of Amon Lanc (ordo) - Legate Sackville-Baggins - sacked, bagged & hanged on Night3
Satansaloser2005 (ordo) - Sally Shortbrush - rammed dead with a table on Day3
Mormegil (the ranger of the Shire) - Mormegil Harrybelly - stabbed to death on Day3

The living:
Thinlómien - Lommy Baggins
Aganzir - Agan Sackville-Baggins
Meneltarmacil - Lupo Furryface
Volo - Justy Proudfoot
Macalaure - Mac Sandyman
The Might - Might of Greenholm
Feanor of the Peredhil - Belladonna Briarpatch
Brinniel - Brinn Burrows
Farael – Farael Twofoot
Kath – Kath Woodyend
Shastanis Althreduin – Shasta of the River
Kuruharan -Kuru Shrewthwacker

Night4 has fallen.

Wolves do what you wish. Seer send me your pick.
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:40 PM   #10
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Also Kuru, I find it odd that while I have tried to bring up many points against many people you harp on Volo and the lack of things I've done there.
Well, it may just be a difference of tactics, but certainly worth mentioning... just like long analysis posts about everyone in the village, what is the point on mentioning lots suspects when only three can be wolves? Unless we do a double/triple lynching we won't kill them all at the same time anyway, and we won't do that 'cos too many things can go wrong (including the fact that our lynchees may very well be ordos). Therefore, why not make a credible accusation at one or two suspicious folks, rather than staying with the knee-jerk reflex of "I suspect whoever suspects me."

I've fallen for that trap before, as a newbie ordo I knew I was an ordo and therefore other people's suspicions always seemed furry... then I learned that people may suspect you and still be an ordo. Morm you've been around long enough that you know it too. Once or twice a game it's bound to happen that someone will suspect you for the wildest of reasons and you'll come out screaming WOOOLLLLFFF!!! But you've done it to everyone who's suspected you.

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... I don't have the time to do lengthy posts about everyone or stay up till 3AM basically chatting instead of searching for wolves (Kuru I'm not pointing to you on this one just a little annoyed at having to spend that finite time reading irrelevant blather)
Out-of-game commentary... sorry to annoy you Morm, but when you stay up unti 3 AM reading up on muscle physiology, any "human contact" is welcome... and c'mon, there were what, four posts of "irrelevant blather"?

Having said that, let's not forget this is still a game among what I hope qualifies as friends, if not friendly people... a little chit-chat won't kill anyone, as long as it's not bogging the game down

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