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Volo · 11-01-2007, 09:28 AM

And now I Xd with Lommy.

Possible scenarios:

Lommy dies and is innocent:
3/5 evil people. We lose.
3/4 evil people. (Xyzzy dies and is innocent.) We lose.
3/6 evil people. (Bodyguard saves.) We probably lose, unless we act quickly and very very smartly.
Calculate the other possibilities yourself (i.e. Xyzzy is evil or something).

Lommy dies and is the villain:
2/5 evil people. (If nothing special happens with the henchman kills.) We might win.
2/4 evil people. (If henchmen get two kills.) We lose.
2/6 evil people. (If henchmen don't get to kill over the lose of their boss.) We don't lose, yet as next Night they'll get two kills: Evil situation: 2/3 or 1/3.
Calculate the other possibilites yourself (i.e. Xyzzy also dies or Bodyguard saves.)

Lommy dies and is a henchgirl:
2/5 evil people. We have good chances of winning.
Calculate Xyzzy and Bodyguard.

Did I make mistakes?

EDIT: Xd with Nogrod.

EDITEDIT: evil people means how many want to vote against the village.

Thinlómien · 11-01-2007, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Volo

Lommy dies and is a henchgirl:

Thank you, Volo, at least someone bothers to accuse with the proper term...

Volo · 11-01-2007, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Thank you, Volo, at least someone bothers to accuse with the proper term...

You're welcome! So you admit being a henchgirl?

That is good news for me.

EDIT: OOG: Does one say "news for" or "news to"?

Gil-Galad · 11-01-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Volo

EDIT: OOG: Does one say "news for" or "news to"?

"Bawk! news for if you already knew and now you fully understand bawk! News to is if you didn't know before! bawk!"

Volo · 11-01-2007, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gil-Galad

If the Henchman kill their villain during the night, they lose there next kill next night. then the night after that they get a double kill. but with low numbers i am suspending the double kill and the bodyguards dual duties. but if the villain gets killed by henchman they still lose the next night. If the Villain is lynched the Henchman still can kill, but the bodyguard gets a double protection bonus for that.

makes sense?

Wonderful! This means that my speculations were wrong and it does indeed makes a lot of sense killing the villain.

Nogrod · 11-01-2007, 09:40 AM

Hey Peeko, 5-2 isn't it now before we lynch the henchgirl?

EDIT: Thanks! I looked at the admin thread. So like normal cobbler s/he is... So 5-2 now, 5-1 in 15 minutes.

Gil-Galad · 11-01-2007, 09:44 AM

"bawk! fifteen minutes make your votes bawk!"

Thinlómien · 11-01-2007, 09:48 AM

If I wanted to say I was a henchgirl I wouldn't have used the word accuse... I would have said that someone uses a proper term for me or calls me with a right name...

Nogrod · 11-01-2007, 09:36 AM

Please Volo.

In every game I have played with a cobbler in it the cobbler has been counted as a villager in the tallies. And the set up would have been very unfair indeed if it would have had 3 baddies and 6 innocents to begin with. So I trust we have a 5-2 situation now. Other than that would be scandalous.

And that doesn't matter as Lommy is a henchgirl and we will be on 5-1 in under a half an hour. Or in a scandalous case on 4-2 with both our gifteds still alive and well.

Volo · 11-01-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Please Volo.

In every game I have played with a cobbler in it the cobbler has been counted as a villager in the tallies. And the set up would have been very unfair indeed if it would have had 3 baddies and 6 innocents to begin with. So I trust we have a 5-2 situation now. Other than that would be scandalous.

Yes yes, I was talking about how many votes the evil people get, not the tally numbers. But as I said already, all my speculations were a waste of time.

In the current case I'm in for lynching Lommy.

Nogrod · 11-01-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Volo

In the current case I'm in for lynching Lommy.

Would you be eager to retract your vote then and take sides? Or do we have to suspect that a villain would love to keep his retraction-weapon for possible later use but still try to say that he's with us?

This is called pressured disarmament...

Thinlómien · 11-01-2007, 09:51 AM

I can see a henchman/villain trying to get rid of one more innocent retraction... tsk... tsk...

Nogrod · 11-01-2007, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I can see a henchman/villain trying to get rid of one more innocent retraction... tsk... tsk...

Just trying to get all the information that is gatherable before the deadline...

Volo · 11-01-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Would you be eager to retract your vote then and take sides? Or do we have to suspect that a villain would love to keep his retraction-weapon for possible later use but still try to say that he's with us?

Nah. A double-lynch would be a sure way for the baddies to show themselves.

Wouldn't it?

Thinlómien · 11-01-2007, 09:53 AM

Note, it doesn't matter if they win by it.

Thinlómien · 11-01-2007, 09:57 AM

Doesn't this sound like a silence just before the world's end...?

Volo · 11-01-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Note, it doesn't matter if they win by it.

You change it then.

Gil-Galad · 11-01-2007, 09:59 AM

Day two is over! stop posting! resolution up soon!

11-01-2007, 09:28 AM	#1
Volo Silver in My Silent Heart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the great beauty Posts: 1,611	And now I Xd with Lommy. Possible scenarios: Lommy dies and is innocent: 3/5 evil people. We lose. 3/4 evil people. (Xyzzy dies and is innocent.) We lose. 3/6 evil people. (Bodyguard saves.) We probably lose, unless we act quickly and very very smartly. Calculate the other possibilities yourself (i.e. Xyzzy is evil or something). Lommy dies and is the villain: 2/5 evil people. (If nothing special happens with the henchman kills.) We might win. 2/4 evil people. (If henchmen get two kills.) We lose. 2/6 evil people. (If henchmen don't get to kill over the lose of their boss.) We don't lose, yet as next Night they'll get two kills: Evil situation: 2/3 or 1/3. Calculate the other possibilites yourself (i.e. Xyzzy also dies or Bodyguard saves.) Lommy dies and is a henchgirl: 2/5 evil people. We have good chances of winning. Calculate Xyzzy and Bodyguard. Did I make mistakes? EDIT: Xd with Nogrod. EDITEDIT: evil people means how many want to vote against the village. __________________ Fenris Wolf The EVEN NEWER Barrow-Downs Photo Page Last edited by Volo; 11-01-2007 at 09:31 AM.

11-01-2007, 09:40 AM	#6
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Hey Peeko, 5-2 isn't it now before we lynch the henchgirl? EDIT: Thanks! I looked at the admin thread. So like normal cobbler s/he is... So 5-2 now, 5-1 in 15 minutes. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-01-2007, 09:44 AM	#7
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	"bawk! fifteen minutes make your votes bawk!" __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

11-01-2007, 09:48 AM	#8
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	If I wanted to say I was a henchgirl I wouldn't have used the word accuse... I would have said that someone uses a proper term for me or calls me with a right name... __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

11-01-2007, 09:36 AM	#9
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Please Volo. In every game I have played with a cobbler in it the cobbler has been counted as a villager in the tallies. And the set up would have been very unfair indeed if it would have had 3 baddies and 6 innocents to begin with. So I trust we have a 5-2 situation now. Other than that would be scandalous. And that doesn't matter as Lommy is a henchgirl and we will be on 5-1 in under a half an hour. Or in a scandalous case on 4-2 with both our gifteds still alive and well. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-01-2007, 09:51 AM	#12
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	I can see a henchman/villain trying to get rid of one more innocent retraction... tsk... tsk... __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

11-01-2007, 09:53 AM	#15
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Note, it doesn't matter if they win by it. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

11-01-2007, 09:57 AM	#16
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Doesn't this sound like a silence just before the world's end...? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

11-01-2007, 09:59 AM	#18
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Day two is over! stop posting! resolution up soon! __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.