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Nor did I say everyone had to agree. I just took offense at your implication that I was 'less intelligent' for not 'loving' Bombadil. Quote:
The poetry of Tolkien is fantastic. What I like about it is that it's the complete opposite of the usual text - the book describes lots of things in great detail (obviously because they're happening in the 'present' of the story) whereas the poetry is non-specific - the characters and events and places are described vaguely, allowing the reader to visualise these ideas in their head, and it gives off this wonderful dreamy feel. Admittedly I sometimes find the descriptions of landscape a little tedious, but I think that's only because I've read it so much. Quote:
However, I do like the evolution of the threats - we begin with the dangerous yet somewhat laughable Old Man Willow and end with the creeping darkness of the Wights. Quote:
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Mar 2007
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On computers it is very hard to tell what tone a person is saying something in. That is why on the Downs I try to stay away from sarcasm and rude remarks. I have a particularly bad way of saying what I don't mean. If you didn't mean to sound condescending and rude to Folwren, I understand. If you did.... Um, as I said, I try to stay away from sarcasm and rude remarks. ![]() But, since you followed that sentence up with "I haven't tried to personally insult you and would never want to do that to any member. My apologies if anything I've said has come across as rude." I will assume you didn't. Quote:
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Aye, aye. Point taken...
I have never been able to picture these animals. How would they carry the platters etc.? Would they walk on the hind legs? It would, I think, be difficult to do it this way, with out looking silly. Beorn should, as far as I'm conserned, be in there. His serving animals? I'm not particularly attached to them, but if PJ can find it possible, that would be great.
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Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties
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Bombadil, The Old Forest, The Barrow Downs, all help contribute a mood of strangeness & add a dimension of mystery to the world of M-e - its a world with other 'dimensions'/realities: the world of the OF & the Downs is no 'stranger' or more out of place than the wraith world Frodo experiences when he puts on the Ring, or Valinor itself come to that. As with the world of Smith, Faery exists alongside the 'real' world. Frodo & the Hobbits pass into a different 'reality', with different rules, & a different kind of 'logic', but the whole experience helps them see their own world with new eyes. Frodo is exposed to danger, taught old lore, & tested (will he put on the Ring in the Barrow & desert his friends in order to escape?), but most importantly he is shown that 'there are more things in heaven & earth than are dreamed of in his philosophy. He also, let's not forget, is given a glimpse of the Undying Lands in Tom's house. I can't concieve of M-e without Bombadil, the OF & the Downs & maybe that's another reason I have a problem with the movies - if you remove the 'Bombadil' dimension you end up with a 'sword & sorcery action epic'. Lose Bombadil & you actually make a character like Treebeard more difficult to accept, because he & the Ents seem too 'outlandish' - a world which has Tom, Goldberry, Old Man Willow & Barrow Wights in it is a world which has room for walking, talking trees. |
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I wouldn't call it a 'sword and sorcery action epic' - a title like that befits something truly low quality like Eragon - but that's down to opinion. Quote:
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You make a claim that is defied by the historical record. |
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Okay..... and just how do you even attempt to prove that statement? If they had done it your way ROTK would have taken in an extra $100 million? If they had done it your way than the film would have won extra Best Film of the Year awards in addition to the one for ROTK? If they had done it your way then critical acclaim would have been 100% instead of merely among the best reviewed films for those three consecutive years?
Just how do you intend to back up your statement with evidence? This is just another in an endless series of examples of hyperbole employed as weapons against the films. And for what point? |
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Messenger of Hope
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Well, maybe, if they had done it davem's way, the movie would have been more popular. If you say that he saying this is pointless and unable to be backed by proof, you implying that his ideas or doing the movie 'his way', as you put it, would not have made the movies better is likewise lacking in proof.
Whatever happened, the movie could not have been WORSE if it had followed the books a little more closely, could it? -- Folwren
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