Split Personality? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

alatar · 10-06-2007, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sauron the White

I am learning that sometimes looking at this stuff is like somebody from the 19th century explaining why a huge battleship made of metal and concrete could never float. The more you learn, the more it makes sense. Thanks to all.

What happened? Don't tell me you suddenly believe a laden Dwarf can run 135 miles in 3.5 days?!? My heart can only take so much...

William Cloud Hicklin · 10-06-2007, 08:53 AM

Is that an African Dwarf or a European Dwarf?

Sauron the White · 10-06-2007, 08:57 AM

The dwarf run all those miles?????

NEVER!!!!!!

littlemanpoet · 10-06-2007, 06:13 PM

AND NOW BACK TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED SPLIT PERSONALITY....

alatar · 10-06-2007, 08:31 PM

So when Gollum finally regains the Ring before he takes his lava swim, is he Smeagol, Gollum or still the split personality?

Folwren · 10-06-2007, 08:41 PM

Not Smeagol. I believe Smeagol was before the Ring...not an innocent figure, but certainly more innocent than the creature that owned the Ring.

He was Gollum...Gollum as Gollum was when Bilbo took his Precious. Not happy, but able to survive and willing to be consumed.

littlemanpoet · 10-06-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Folwren

Not Smeagol. I believe Smeagol was before the Ring...not an innocent figure, but certainly more innocent than the creature that owned the Ring.

He was Gollum...Gollum as Gollum was when Bilbo took his Precious. Not happy, but able to survive and willing to be consumed.

Yeah. I agree with this. But I don't buy "split personality"; I think that all the Smeagol that had remained inside the creature got snuffed out when Sam chose his words badly at the moment he almost repented.

10-06-2007, 08:53 AM	#2
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,330	Is that an African Dwarf or a European Dwarf? __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

10-06-2007, 08:31 PM	#5
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	You complete me... So when Gollum finally regains the Ring before he takes his lava swim, is he Smeagol, Gollum or still the split personality? __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.

10-06-2007, 08:41 PM	#6
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Not Smeagol. I believe Smeagol was before the Ring...not an innocent figure, but certainly more innocent than the creature that owned the Ring. He was Gollum...Gollum as Gollum was when Bilbo took his Precious. Not happy, but able to survive and willing to be consumed. __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

10-06-2007, 08:57 AM	#3
Sauron the White Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 903	The dwarf run all those miles????? *NEVER!!!!!!*

10-06-2007, 06:13 PM	#4
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	AND NOW BACK TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED SPLIT PERSONALITY....