Sauron - Physical form in The War of the Ring or not? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Em · 01-01-2004, 07:35 PM

So was he just a spirit and a flaming eye then?

Boromir88 · 11-30-2004, 02:14 PM

A simple quote will end this argument (hopefully it hasn't already been brought up). Eomer has already said Saruman isn't just a big white hand (lol ha). But anyway onto the quote...

Quote:

The Palantir
In a low hesitating voice Pippin began again, and slowly his words grew clearer and stronger. "I saw a dark sky, and tall battlements," he said. "And tiny stars. It seemed very far away and long ago, yet hard and claer. Then the stars went in and out - they were cutt off by things with wings. Very big, I think, really; but in the glass they looked like bats wheeling round the tower. I thought there were nine of them. One began to fly straight towards me, getting bigger and bigger. It had a horrible - no, now! I can't say.
"I tried to get away, because I thought it would fly out; but when it had covered all the globe, it disappeared. Then he[sic] came. He did not speak so that I could hear words. He just looked, and I understood...

No one can force the palantir to lie. Pippin saw "him," and if he saw him, then that must be his physical form, and again no one can force the palantir to lie.

obloquy · 11-30-2004, 03:33 PM

The argument was settled a long time ago. For some reason it is difficult for some people to read before they post. I predict that, since you have resurrected the topic by posting to it, several people will now read the initial post, and, without bothering to read any responses (or any Tolkien, for that matter), they will ejaculate their own ignorant ideas and/or redundant evidence for this or that side of a nonexistent debate.

Edit: But since you've dug up the thread, some may be interested in the topic I linked to above. Instead of editing the posts here, I'll just provide a link to the thread on the new forum. I've recently updated the links in it at the request of a forum friend.

01-01-2004, 07:35 PM	#1
Em Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The deep, dark recesses of my mind Posts: 19	So was he just a spirit and a flaming eye then? __________________ 'So' a silvery voice spoke 'you are the one' and suddenly the ice-blue eyes from the shadows vanished. (The Fallen Creator, Emily Sarah)

11-30-2004, 03:33 PM	#3
obloquy Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: WA Posts: 941	The argument was settled a long time ago. For some reason it is difficult for some people to read before they post. I predict that, since you have resurrected the topic by posting to it, several people will now read the initial post, and, without bothering to read any responses (or any Tolkien, for that matter), they will ejaculate their own ignorant ideas and/or redundant evidence for this or that side of a nonexistent debate. Edit: But since you've dug up the thread, some may be interested in the topic I linked to above. Instead of editing the posts here, I'll just provide a link to the thread on the new forum. I've recently updated the links in it at the request of a forum friend. Last edited by obloquy; 11-30-2004 at 03:45 PM.