From the Enemy's Eyes-Rohirrim Charge on Helm's Deep/Pellenor - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mormegil · 04-29-2005, 08:28 PM

Agreed. In theory it could pull off but as stated it would need to be quick and accurate but if they responded quickly they could pull it off. They off course would need to be well disciplined. Now I believe that Uruks are a more disciplined fighting unit than regular orcs so with those it could be possible, however with just orcs I don't see the strict regiment to accomplish the feat.

I don't think it's a sure fire method to halt the attack but yes if all those conditions were met than I could say that it could be rather effective to fire a catapult into the chargers.

Kath · 04-30-2005, 04:52 AM

The orcs might not have been as well regimented as the Uruk Hai but they were still well ordered with leaders and sub leaders (e.g. orc who looks like foam as main leader and then orc with two head that says "Catapaults!"). Also when the camera angle was from above you could see that they were arranged in pretty organised rows and columns. Then you have their secret attack on Osgiliath - all of which gives the impression that they could have developed a counter-attack against the Rohirrim without too much trouble.

I think the problem was the sunlight, the Uruk Hai should really have been able to withstand that as that was a mahor thing in their design, but the normal orcs have always avoided sunlight and so it is understandable that they were overwhelmed by it.

WarBringer · 05-15-2005, 08:37 PM

I have not checked thoroughly, so perhaps someone may have said this, but again, if time allowed, the use of pitfalls would be effective. Also, although gruesome, a wall of human bodies (

would discourage an attack (imagine charging into a battle and seeing your closest friends headless and heaped up!) and provide an obvious barrier to the charge.

04-29-2005, 08:28 PM	#1
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Agreed. In theory it could pull off but as stated it would need to be quick and accurate but if they responded quickly they could pull it off. They off course would need to be well disciplined. Now I believe that Uruks are a more disciplined fighting unit than regular orcs so with those it could be possible, however with just orcs I don't see the strict regiment to accomplish the feat. I don't think it's a sure fire method to halt the attack but yes if all those conditions were met than I could say that it could be rather effective to fire a catapult into the chargers. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

04-30-2005, 04:52 AM	#2
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	The orcs might not have been as well regimented as the Uruk Hai but they were still well ordered with leaders and sub leaders (e.g. orc who looks like foam as main leader and then orc with two head that says "Catapaults!"). Also when the camera angle was from above you could see that they were arranged in pretty organised rows and columns. Then you have their secret attack on Osgiliath - all of which gives the impression that they could have developed a counter-attack against the Rohirrim without too much trouble. I think the problem was the sunlight, the Uruk Hai should really have been able to withstand that as that was a mahor thing in their design, but the normal orcs have always avoided sunlight and so it is understandable that they were overwhelmed by it. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

05-15-2005, 08:37 PM	#3
WarBringer Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wandering The North Posts: 184	I have not checked thoroughly, so perhaps someone may have said this, but again, if time allowed, the use of pitfalls would be effective. Also, although gruesome, a wall of human bodies ( would discourage an attack (imagine charging into a battle and seeing your closest friends headless and heaped up!) and provide an obvious barrier to the charge. __________________ Fortune Favors the Bold...