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I know that 'to wrestle' can also mean 'to fight' (probably by using weapons in this case), and 'to throw down' can also probably mean 'to overthrow' for example a king from his throne, so maybe that is the case here? Here are other examples of the verb 'to wrestle' in Tolkien's works: The Silmarillion: Quote:
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Though I do not think that Elves had any wrestling competitions. But Elves are definitely hardy creatures (perhaps especially the Ñoldor) and they would wrestle if that is their only choice or if they think it is of any use, like Finrod Felagund so valiantly did in the pits of Sauron. |
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Pilgrim Soul
Join Date: May 2004
Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle...
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I would venture to suggest (and unlikely as it may seem thinking of the pictures of the elderly pipesmoking academic) Tolkien was a more than competent schoolboy rugger player (first XV if i remember rightly) so I think it almost certain that it wolu have been a flabby rugby football..... not an Association one
![]() I am sure a dwarf scrum would be fearsome but might be lacking speed in the back five - I think you really would want elves there, ![]() It has to be said that almost all of middle earth seems to have an inexplicable aversion to my favourite sport of swimming..... it almost always seem to end in tears doesn't it?... drowning, losing/finding rings of power,getting shot by orcs, nearly losing your barrel, falling into enchanted sleep........ |
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: The Encircling Sea, deciding which ship to ruin next...could be yours.
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Yes indeed, the Team of Mordor's scrum would certainly consist of:
2 mountain trolls as props, and olog-hai warrior as hooker, uruk hai second row, two nice meaty uruks for flankers, (the bigger one on the blindside) and finally another olog hai at lock... They'd have a nice little goblin playing scrum half, and some generally tall, fast uruks through through the backs... That dwarven scrum would be completely hammered!! It'd be like Australia vs England the last week :P hahaha (Then again, perhaps Mordor would only win if the Free Peoples had five of their best players out??) <Definately not and Aussie (hehe)> Osse
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Pilgrim Soul
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Twist that knife why don't you? Normal service has been resumed in British sport after that blinder of a Rugby world cup final .....
![]() ![]() Still may have to play Gandalf to even things up.... in the power stakes ... or draft in a few Valar - Tulkas and Orome at centre? |
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