Timeline of the Great Rings

[Arvegil145]

@Huinesoron, this post (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=19224 ) goes a bit deeper into the whole 'Tal-Elmar' text, and what the latest versions of it are like + some earlier but non-contradictory statements: such as the fact that Tolkien imagined Tal-elmar journeying to Rhovanion and the Sea of Rhun at some point.

[Arvegil145]

Also, there's this quote by Elmar talking to Buldar (her...eh...non-consentual would-be-husband):

"If here I must dwell, then dwell I must, as one whose body is in this place at thy will, but my thought far elsewhere. And this vengeance I will have, that while my body is kept here in exile, the lot of all this folk shall worsen, and thine most; but when my body goes to the alien earth, and my thought is free of it, then in thy kin one shall arise who is mine alone. And with his arising shall come the end of thy people and the downfall of your king."

- PoME, 'Tal-Elmar', p. 425


This is clearly a reference to Tal-elmar, but I'm not sure what it means - or what Tolkien intended to do with it. I think "your king"-part refers to Sauron though.



Also, the final version of the story takes place, in all likelihood, somewhere at or around Pinnath Gelin I think.