Tol-in-Guarhoth CIX - Ten Year Anniversary Game: Dead Thread

[Rikae]

Boro also "I'm feeling better about morm today"

but he didn't say anything about Mac.

"I've been in a deep slumber from any WW games until recently."

Anyway, looks like Nerwen was looking for confirmation from the seer before her reveal, and got it.

[Rikae]

65 posts in just under 2 hours... c'mon, dead folks, we can do it!

[the phantom]

Ha ha, no, we don't have to pass them now!
We can keep close to them through the day and leave them eating dust tomorrow night. (Unless, for instance, Boro and Nerwen die tonight, in which case we'll pass them during the day quite easily I would guess.)

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Boro also "I'm feeling better about morm today"

but he didn't say anything about Mac.

"I've been in a deep slumber from any WW games until recently."

Anyway, looks like Nerwen was looking for confirmation from the seer before her reveal, and got it.

I'm not sure I see the connection. Something in Nerwen's phrasing caught my eye when she mentioned my idea of gifteds signalling each other, but I don't see how they could have reached an understanding in such a short time. Did Boro say anything about Nerwen before?

[Aganzir]

Anyway, how about that summary post for the newly deceased?

Let me start.

• Please tell us your role. Unless you're a gifted who's going back to the Living thread and you feel you'll get more information out of us by keeping it a secret.
• Loslote is (obiously) a wolf.
• Aganzir is the Hunter.
• Greenie is prey.
• Mac is possibly also a wolf and we're kind of working on that assumption but we're not sure. Because we're not sure Nerwen was telling the truth. Or are we? We're divided here.
• Whether we're voting on role reveal or empowerment, let's try not to split the vote so the wolves can't hijack it. Because we don't know how many wolves there are, the known innocents (at the moment Agan and Greenie) will preferably lead the voting in order to avoid a tie.
• When you die and enter this thread, phantom will tell you something totally unexpected but we swear it's 100% true.

Feel free to edit and add things... and quote it somewhere they can see it easily?

And it's bedtime for me.

[Rikae]

Our lovely hunter made a post to get you up to speed:

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Anyway, how about that summary post for the newly deceased?

Let me start.

• Please tell us your role. Unless you're a gifted who's going back to the Living thread and you feel you'll get more information out of us by keeping it a secret.
• Loslote is (obiously) a wolf.
• Aganzir is the Hunter.
• Greenie is prey.
• Mac is possibly also a wolf and we're kind of working on that assumption but we're not sure. Because we're not sure Nerwen was telling the truth. Or are we? We're divided here.
• Whether we're voting on role reveal or empowerment, let's try not to split the vote so the wolves can't hijack it. Because we don't know how many wolves there are, the known innocents (at the moment Agan and Greenie) will preferably lead the voting in order to avoid a tie.
• When you die and enter this thread, phantom will tell you something totally unexpected but we swear it's 100% true.

Feel free to edit and add things... and quote it somewhere they can see it easily?

And it's bedtime for me.

Edit: X'd with everyone since phantom's 100% true post

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Firefoot

I still think there's a solid possibility Mac was a wolf, so I'm happy enough with whoever offed him.

Originally Posted by Firefoot

Macalaure (killed by ?) - would be my top pick for a wolf in this group

Originally Posted by Firefoot

I was already inclined to vote for Lottie (in the absence of a lover scheme anyway) and this sort of seals the deal. I was already inclined to trust Nerwen, and the two people she named topped my suspect list anyway.

And then with what I said yesterday-

Originally Posted by phantom

Firefoot could be a Wolf. Or Lottie could be painting her as a Wolf because she wants her pack to kill her but does not want the Ranger to protect her (i.e. she actually suspects her of being the Seer & the Legate-Seer thing is a clever ruse).

So if FF is the Seer maybe she received the guilty dreams as well and hopes Nerwen notes her agreement?

Anyway, just posting that to keep myself and others from allowing assumption to get in the way of seeing other possibilities however unlikely (I keep doing that- sort of burring what's actually known and what we have to assume for scenarios, heh).

Just about anything could be happening after the weird triple kill and transmitted dream. Can't wait to see what happens in the narration.

(x-post: you're wonderful, dear)

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Rikae

And then Nerwen says in #466
"Now, what do people think of our little snow flower, Lottie?"

And then Boro in #481
"Lottie, I haven't formed much of an opinion on, she's skating under my nose."

Snow flower? Skating?

'Loslote' is bastardized Elvish for snow flower.

[Rikae]

Still looks like a signal to me. Especially since, in his reply, Boro singled Lottie out with that "skating" phrase (which is weird sounding to me, at any rate), while lumping together a whole bunch of others (Lommy, Firefoot and Form) under "I still am getting a lost, don't have many clues feel"

It would also seem he dreamed Nilp and morm as innocents.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I'm not sure I see the connection. Something in Nerwen's phrasing caught my eye when she mentioned my idea of gifteds signalling each other, but I don't see how they could have reached an understanding in such a short time. Did Boro say anything about Nerwen before?

Basically, I think she grabbed his attention by talking about your gifted-signaling talk, and then he used the skating phrasing to confirm that the "snow flower" was a wolf...

I could be wrong about what's going on there, but I'm sure something's going on there. Nerwen seemed very pointed in those posts, and she replied to Boro's "skating" post with "Thank you. I want to hear from a few more people, though.".

Like I said, it struck me as weird yesterDay already, though I wasn't paying close attention.

[the phantom]

Did I SERIOUSLY just watch/hear that.

(not referencing the game, I'm sure someone knows what I'm talking about)

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Did I SERIOUSLY just watch/hear that.

(not referencing the game, I'm sure someone knows what I'm talking about)

If it's what I think, we'll find out after DL *makes popcorn*

So nobody spoil!

[the phantom]

Okay, it's over here. And no spoilers, I promise.

[Kuruharan]

The NIGHT passed slowly and with long debate.

The denizens flickered and darted trying to probe the natures of their neighbors.

They finally determined that in his former life Legate was Prey.

Then, the waiting, having little else to do, they spent the remaining time debating the events in the world of the Living.

The mists stirred, as all knew they would...

Firefoot and Lalaith were suddenly among them.

Somehow given the scale of the calamity besetting them, only having two new friends seemed like something of a blessing.

Was there even any cake left?

The Missing or Dead:
Kuruharan
Nogrod
the phantom
Rune Son of Bjarne
Aganzir
A Little Green (Prey)
Macalaure
Rikae
Legate of Amon Lanc (Prey)
Loslote
Firefoot
Lalaith

The Living:
Formendacil
satansaloser2005
McCaber
Boromir88
Nerwen
Thinlómien
Eomer of the Rohirrim
mormegil
Nilpaurion Felagund
Shastanis Althreduin
Mithalwen
Kath

Illusion:
Gwathagor (Ordo)

[the phantom]

Welcome to our new Dead! This is the cool thread. Obviously.

The first thing you need to know- my role is The Third Wheel. My goal is to hang around the Lovers and make them feel awkward. As you can imagine being in an entirely different thread makes it difficult to fulfill my purpose. Ah well...

[Aganzir]

Welcome Firefoot and Lalaith! Nice to see some fresh blood here.

I'm not ready to believe Boro just yet. I read his reveal and thought, "This sounds exactly like a typical Boro fake reveal". Then I saw the discrepancy between him and Nerwen that Rikae mentioned. So yeah, out of the two I feel Boro is the more likely liar.

I'm okay with checking Lalaith. HOWEVER, I think the lynch should still take priority.

You're right, Lalaith - two scries (Greenie and Legate) and one empowerment (Shasta, to tell the village Greenie was innocent). You almost got empowered on DAY 2 but Nog and phantom had some trouble agreeing.

I've only skimmed the Living thread but before I can read it properly, I must get some breakfast and finish knitting the hat I'm supposed to give to two coworkers' baby in two hours. Will be back.

[Aganzir]

So I came to work on my day off to see the office baby. Parents are late. "Might as well catch up with my emails," I think. Find myself here.

Originally Posted by McCaber

Hey sally. Depending on what shakes out toDay I think I'd still prefer you alive than temporarily deceased, just because it seems easier to me to protect someone you know versus someone staying hidden, and as there's still two kills a night flying around I would dislike risking both of you dying in the same cycle and us getting nothing from your reveal.

I was skimming and almost got a heart attack because all I saw at first was the "easier to me to protect someone you know" and I thought McC was revealing as the Ranger.

In any case, morm and McC are looking good to me.

In my experience, Boro's fake reveals are characterised by not being straightforward. Instead of saying "I'm the gifted" he does this jolly good "Hey ho by the way I'm just replying to this relevant quote in a way that strongly suggests I'm the gifted", and you have to dig for more information. So I'm not saying he's lying, but I think his tone is off. I'm just not sure what he'd gain by doing a false reveal at this point. Will have to think about it.

Okay got to go again.

[Macalaure]

So first Nerwen reveals falsely and now Boro, too! I don't know what to say anymore. The only way I can think of that makes sense would be if...


...aww, screw that.

I give up.


If Nerwen and Boro are indeed just messing with us I'm going find out where they live and murder them dead!

[Aganzir]

Oyyy we have another 100% wolf!

So.

I'm thinking we can find at least one of Mac's fellows among Lommy, Firefoot and Rikae.

[Aganzir]

I'm curious - which pack do you two represent, Grip or Fang? Or would you prefer us to call them Macpack and Losseposse?

[Lalaith]

The only thing I am hanging onto in this crazy double-threaded world is that I felt very sure of Greenie being innocent and I was right about that.
When it looked (after the Agan kill) that she wasn't, I thought my instincts had completely gone after years of non-playing...I can't believe Nogs or phantom haven't been scried yet. We were so sure you would have done, back in the land of the living...

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

I was already leaning toward Morm being innocent after the Loslote interactions earlier in the game. He needs to re-assess his priorities, though.

Interesting logic. Not wolves with Lottie, ergo innocent. How can Eomer reach that conclusion unless he's in the other pack?

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Oyyy we have another 100% wolf!

So.

I'm thinking we can find at least one of Mac's fellows among Lommy, Firefoot and Rikae.

How do you figure? Because as it is (if we scry Lalaith), both Firefoot and I are going to remain unknown.

And, Mac, you had me fooled, anyway (I even had my doubts after Nerwen's reveal). You always look like your same old self to me, wolf or innocent, so I try to avoid basing decisions on you!

[Macalaure]

One would think, after all those different wolf combos you guys have tried out so far, at least one of them had been correct simply by chance. It's fun from my perspective, because I can see the one crucial piece of info that's missing. Should I help you, to increase my chances of bringing down the other wolf pack, or am I just going to lean back and wait until you figure it out?

Originally Posted by Rikae

And, Mac, you had me fooled, anyway (I even had my doubts after Nerwen's reveal). You always look like your same old self to me, wolf or innocent, so I try to avoid basing decisions on you!

Yeah, I seemed to be able to maintain a shred of doubt in here, even despite overwhelming evidence. Go me!

[Rikae]

Ok, caught up now, Nerwen calling Firefoot innocent and exempting a whole boatload of people from lynching: Lommy, Eomer, Shasta. Maybe Nilp.

Caught up, but lost. I can't even keep track anymore. What do we know?
Boro can only kill wolves and gifteds, apparently? If so, can we count Lalaith as a wolf without bothering to scry her? She called herself an ordo.
Of course that only works if we trust Boro, and trust that this is indeed how his ability works.

If Nerwen knows Firefoot is innocent, there's no reason to waste a scry on her, either.

I may even be the best option. So, I'm supposed to be a member of the Fang pack with Mac and (apparently seer-dreamed innocent) Lommy or (also apparently seer-dreamed innocent, and also dead) Firefoot? I'm not sure how much good knowing I'm not will do you.

Agan, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who finds the tone of Boro's reveal fishy. Not that he might not have good reasons for it.

I'm sorry if I seem to be saying random things. Like I said, I'm kind of lost at the moment.