Tol-in-Guarhoth CIX - Ten Year Anniversary Game: Dead Thread

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

This option 3 is something I've seen people talk about (I don't remember who) and it kind of escapes me - like what's the point?

Buy one of them another day by making the wolves prioritise Nerwen over sally while simultaneously letting the Ranger know sally may need protection. It is a gamble though. But if this is the case, they managed to flush out a wolf nicely so I'm not complaining.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Buy one of them another day by making the wolves prioritise Nerwen over sally while simultaneously letting the Ranger know sally may need protection. It is a gamble though. But if this is the case, they managed to flush out a wolf nicely so I'm not complaining.

It seems, though, that it would have been too risky... what if Lottie had been gifted?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Rikae

It seems, though, that it would have been too risky... what if Lottie had been gifted?

Maybe they were just so sure of her guilt? I don't know though. It's just, if Mac is lying, he's doing a better job than I would have given him credit for ().

[Aganzir]

Also, we're fewer than 70 posts from catching up with the Living thread!

I wonder who are joining us tonight. Not that I'll be here to see it until much later because I should be in bed right now.

If it's Nerwen and she's not sally's lover, I'll feel extra dumb for staying up late to look at their posts.

[Rikae]

I kind of had a feeling Boro and Nerwen had some kind of understanding yesterDay, so I went back over Nerwen's posts and noticed this:

#461 "By the way, didn’t Agan say something on Day One about how gifteds should signal to each other?"

And then a few posts later she links it, Agan's post #86:
" I wouldn't presume to advise the seer (still never having been one), but if they happen to dream of another gifted, establishing a connection (if it can be done discreetly enough not to endanger either party) might not be a bad idea at all. That way at least there'd be somebody to steer the village (discreetly or not) in the right direction at the event of the seer's death."

And then Nerwen says in #466
"Now, what do people think of our little snow flower, Lottie?"

And then Boro in #481
"Lottie, I haven't formed much of an opinion on, she's skating under my nose."

Snow flower? Skating?

[Rikae]

Boro also "I'm feeling better about morm today"

but he didn't say anything about Mac.

"I've been in a deep slumber from any WW games until recently."

Anyway, looks like Nerwen was looking for confirmation from the seer before her reveal, and got it.

[Rikae]

65 posts in just under 2 hours... c'mon, dead folks, we can do it!

[the phantom]

Ha ha, no, we don't have to pass them now!
We can keep close to them through the day and leave them eating dust tomorrow night. (Unless, for instance, Boro and Nerwen die tonight, in which case we'll pass them during the day quite easily I would guess.)

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Boro also "I'm feeling better about morm today"

but he didn't say anything about Mac.

"I've been in a deep slumber from any WW games until recently."

Anyway, looks like Nerwen was looking for confirmation from the seer before her reveal, and got it.

I'm not sure I see the connection. Something in Nerwen's phrasing caught my eye when she mentioned my idea of gifteds signalling each other, but I don't see how they could have reached an understanding in such a short time. Did Boro say anything about Nerwen before?

[Aganzir]

Anyway, how about that summary post for the newly deceased?

Let me start.

• Please tell us your role. Unless you're a gifted who's going back to the Living thread and you feel you'll get more information out of us by keeping it a secret.
• Loslote is (obiously) a wolf.
• Aganzir is the Hunter.
• Greenie is prey.
• Mac is possibly also a wolf and we're kind of working on that assumption but we're not sure. Because we're not sure Nerwen was telling the truth. Or are we? We're divided here.
• Whether we're voting on role reveal or empowerment, let's try not to split the vote so the wolves can't hijack it. Because we don't know how many wolves there are, the known innocents (at the moment Agan and Greenie) will preferably lead the voting in order to avoid a tie.
• When you die and enter this thread, phantom will tell you something totally unexpected but we swear it's 100% true.

Feel free to edit and add things... and quote it somewhere they can see it easily?

And it's bedtime for me.

[Rikae]

Our lovely hunter made a post to get you up to speed:

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Anyway, how about that summary post for the newly deceased?

Let me start.

• Please tell us your role. Unless you're a gifted who's going back to the Living thread and you feel you'll get more information out of us by keeping it a secret.
• Loslote is (obiously) a wolf.
• Aganzir is the Hunter.
• Greenie is prey.
• Mac is possibly also a wolf and we're kind of working on that assumption but we're not sure. Because we're not sure Nerwen was telling the truth. Or are we? We're divided here.
• Whether we're voting on role reveal or empowerment, let's try not to split the vote so the wolves can't hijack it. Because we don't know how many wolves there are, the known innocents (at the moment Agan and Greenie) will preferably lead the voting in order to avoid a tie.
• When you die and enter this thread, phantom will tell you something totally unexpected but we swear it's 100% true.

Feel free to edit and add things... and quote it somewhere they can see it easily?

And it's bedtime for me.

Edit: X'd with everyone since phantom's 100% true post

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Firefoot

I still think there's a solid possibility Mac was a wolf, so I'm happy enough with whoever offed him.

Originally Posted by Firefoot

Macalaure (killed by ?) - would be my top pick for a wolf in this group

Originally Posted by Firefoot

I was already inclined to vote for Lottie (in the absence of a lover scheme anyway) and this sort of seals the deal. I was already inclined to trust Nerwen, and the two people she named topped my suspect list anyway.

And then with what I said yesterday-

Originally Posted by phantom

Firefoot could be a Wolf. Or Lottie could be painting her as a Wolf because she wants her pack to kill her but does not want the Ranger to protect her (i.e. she actually suspects her of being the Seer & the Legate-Seer thing is a clever ruse).

So if FF is the Seer maybe she received the guilty dreams as well and hopes Nerwen notes her agreement?

Anyway, just posting that to keep myself and others from allowing assumption to get in the way of seeing other possibilities however unlikely (I keep doing that- sort of burring what's actually known and what we have to assume for scenarios, heh).

Just about anything could be happening after the weird triple kill and transmitted dream. Can't wait to see what happens in the narration.

(x-post: you're wonderful, dear)

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Rikae

And then Nerwen says in #466
"Now, what do people think of our little snow flower, Lottie?"

And then Boro in #481
"Lottie, I haven't formed much of an opinion on, she's skating under my nose."

Snow flower? Skating?

'Loslote' is bastardized Elvish for snow flower.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I'm not sure I see the connection. Something in Nerwen's phrasing caught my eye when she mentioned my idea of gifteds signalling each other, but I don't see how they could have reached an understanding in such a short time. Did Boro say anything about Nerwen before?

Basically, I think she grabbed his attention by talking about your gifted-signaling talk, and then he used the skating phrasing to confirm that the "snow flower" was a wolf...

I could be wrong about what's going on there, but I'm sure something's going on there. Nerwen seemed very pointed in those posts, and she replied to Boro's "skating" post with "Thank you. I want to hear from a few more people, though.".

Like I said, it struck me as weird yesterDay already, though I wasn't paying close attention.

[the phantom]

Did I SERIOUSLY just watch/hear that.

(not referencing the game, I'm sure someone knows what I'm talking about)

[Aganzir]

Welcome Firefoot and Lalaith! Nice to see some fresh blood here.

I'm not ready to believe Boro just yet. I read his reveal and thought, "This sounds exactly like a typical Boro fake reveal". Then I saw the discrepancy between him and Nerwen that Rikae mentioned. So yeah, out of the two I feel Boro is the more likely liar.

I'm okay with checking Lalaith. HOWEVER, I think the lynch should still take priority.

You're right, Lalaith - two scries (Greenie and Legate) and one empowerment (Shasta, to tell the village Greenie was innocent). You almost got empowered on DAY 2 but Nog and phantom had some trouble agreeing.

I've only skimmed the Living thread but before I can read it properly, I must get some breakfast and finish knitting the hat I'm supposed to give to two coworkers' baby in two hours. Will be back.

[Aganzir]

So I came to work on my day off to see the office baby. Parents are late. "Might as well catch up with my emails," I think. Find myself here.

Originally Posted by McCaber

Hey sally. Depending on what shakes out toDay I think I'd still prefer you alive than temporarily deceased, just because it seems easier to me to protect someone you know versus someone staying hidden, and as there's still two kills a night flying around I would dislike risking both of you dying in the same cycle and us getting nothing from your reveal.

I was skimming and almost got a heart attack because all I saw at first was the "easier to me to protect someone you know" and I thought McC was revealing as the Ranger.

In any case, morm and McC are looking good to me.

In my experience, Boro's fake reveals are characterised by not being straightforward. Instead of saying "I'm the gifted" he does this jolly good "Hey ho by the way I'm just replying to this relevant quote in a way that strongly suggests I'm the gifted", and you have to dig for more information. So I'm not saying he's lying, but I think his tone is off. I'm just not sure what he'd gain by doing a false reveal at this point. Will have to think about it.

Okay got to go again.

[Macalaure]

So first Nerwen reveals falsely and now Boro, too! I don't know what to say anymore. The only way I can think of that makes sense would be if...


...aww, screw that.

I give up.


If Nerwen and Boro are indeed just messing with us I'm going find out where they live and murder them dead!