An Unexpected Journey, or the morning after

[Rhod the Red]

While Orcs have medicine, material insight doesn't seem to indicate it's much beyond energy boosters. It's up to the watcher to decide if it's reasonable to assume that a major injury to Orcs with cultural deprivation of serious medicine die afterwards. It didn't click as incoherent in my mind when I saw it, but that's just me, lol.

[Morthoron]

Originally Posted by Rhod the Red

While Orcs have medicine, material insight doesn't seem to indicate it's much beyond energy boosters. It's up to the watcher to decide if it's reasonable to assume that a major injury to Orcs with cultural deprivation of serious medicine die afterwards. It didn't click as incoherent in my mind when I saw it, but that's just me, lol.

Cultural deprivation? A warlike race like the orcs might not have delicate surgical procedures, but they would know enough to cauterize a wound. Even the most barbarous tribes had the wherewithal to staunch the most serious wounds. Thousands of years afterward, surgery in the American Civil War was basically a saw and perhaps some alcohol. If it was a clean wound and didn't get infected, you survived. Thousands did survive after amputations.

And if I recall correctly, the Uruk-hai had a salve they slathered on Merry's head that proved quite effective in healing his wound.

[The Barrow-Wight]

Everyone, please stay on topic and avoid talking about each other. Thanks!

[Morthoron]

Peter Jackson noted the Orkish cordial and salve in The Two Towers.

Therefore, even in the LotR trilogy PJ adheres to the abilities of Orkish medicine, but then has Thorin make a claim that is absurd, given the turn of events in the film itself. Thorin did not and could not see Azog die. So, if there is going to be some questionable plotpoint about a necromantic resurrection, has PJ once again shot himself in the foot with bad editing?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

Therefore, even in the LotR trilogy PJ adheres to the abilities of Orkish medicine, but then has Thorin make a claim that is absurd, given the turn of events in the film itself. Thorin did not and could not see Azog die. So, if there is going to be some questionable plotpoint about a necromantic resurrection, has PJ once again shot himself in the foot with bad editing?

I'm not sure there is one. From Googling "Azog + resurrection", it looks like it's just fan-speculation, and may have begun as a purely figurative use of the word ("I hear they're going to resurrect Azog for this film" etc.).

Here's hoping, anyway.

[Rhod the Red]

Probably, yes. Unless a scene will be given showing the Necromancer reviving him after he dies in a cave or intervening to prevent death or something like that.

When was it implied that Sauron resurrected him?

The juxtaposition of the rise of a Necromancer & the re-emergence of an Orc leader Thorin assumes he killed in battle. That implies Souron revived the Orc at some point, to help create trouble in the Wilderland, etc. Hopefully PJ ensures more coherency on this issue in Hobbit P2, etc.

The same with the reference in the White Council meeting that the Witch King was *killed* & buried, despite the inclusion of Glorfindel's prophesy of him not killable 'by any living Man' in the Return of the King film