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Originally Posted by Guinevere
I still am not really fond of tragedies...
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Here it lies.

I love tragedies!
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Just read history (“a long defeat” indeed!) or listen to the news every day –it could lead one to despair!
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This is bringing me off a tangent, but I think LOTR could also qualify for a "long defeat". It's victory, but the mood isn't exactly happy, and the world still lost more than it could have imagined - with all the departing Elves and fading magic/mystery/etc. It's still part of a very very very long defeat, one that still hasn't ended.