WW LXXXVII - The Valley Forge

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Eruhen

I have nothing to add to the discussion so far, except that this is going to be an interesting game. It seems that we have been cursed to live in interesting times.

Nothing to add? What about your opinion of Phantom's scheme? (Even though he won't accept anything short of "brilliant"... )

But yes, definitely cursed to live in, as you put it, interesting times... Mith will like this reference...

Originally Posted by the phantom

Until someone convinces me otherwise I'm trying to kill the KD today actually. But as you said, any effort will require some luck.

We need Bilbo. He's always lucky.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

We need Bilbo. He's always lucky.

Unfortunately, he's way west of this Mountain, retired in Rivendell; so no luck, I'm afraid.

Anyway, bedtime for me. See you all (and some others, hopefully) in the morning.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Gal

This looks like the loudest beginning of Day One ever.

*snicker* Not even close, m'dear. We're still on the first page.

Originally Posted by Gal

Well, you can't win if you're dead.

Since when? This has always been a team game. If your team is the last one left standing, then you win- particularly if in life or in death you aided the efforts of your teammates. Now seriously, stop this business of trying to convince the KD that he isn't a winner if he dies. It really looks suspicious. Seriously, it does.

Originally Posted by Gal

You might as well call it a reveal if we all agree that everyone except for the KD should do something/say something/ etc. If the KD realy stands out by acting suspicious on purpose, it amounts to the same thing.

I already addressed that here. That will make things easier for him, not to mention I plan on doing my part to provide cover to him (by starting to suspect people as the day wears on). If other people have suspects then it will keep him from looking too obvious. Of course it will be more difficult to identify him that way, but we'll just have to leave it to him and hope he can manage to get himself killed without wearing a "kill me" sign.

Heh- it's lucky that I'm not the KD. That's the one thing I'm not particularly good at- getting lynched.

[Eruhen]

Well, if you want my opinion of Phantom's plan, the terms 'insane', 'wild-goose chase', and 'disturbingly lupine' spring immediately to mind. I'm going to need to think about it more, though.

Seems to me that while lynching the KD is the way to go (if the other option is having him killed and potentially losing the Sweetheart too), doing so on Day 1 seems counter-productive, especially since the Watchdwarf will then be shooting in the dark (or would that be 'Dark'?) as to who to protect during the Nights.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Eruhen

Seems to me that while lynching the KD is the way to go

Originally Posted by Eruhen

doing so on Day 1 seems counter-productive, especially since the Watchdwarf will then be shooting in the dark (or would that be 'Dark'?) as to who to protect during the Nights.

Come now, that doesn't make sense. You think it's good to kill the KD, but not at the start?!

The later the game wears on the more dire our situation becomes, and the less we can afford to make an incorrect lynch. Right at the start is the perfect time to lynch the KD.

And who cares if the Watchdwarf doesn't know what to do so long as we know precisely who the Forge members are. Not to mention how much guidance can the KD really give the Watchdwarf? He has to send his instructions before the night conversations have even started, and once those start the other Forge members are going to be wary of any of their number attempting to push a certain candidate, particularly if that same Forge member spent the day suspecting the other Forge members.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by the phantom

And who cares if the Watchdwarf doesn't know what to do so long as we know precisely who the Forge members are. Not to mention how much guidance can the KD really give the Watchdwarf? He has to send his instructions before the night conversations have even started, and once those start the other Forge members are going to be wary of any of their number attempting to push a certain candidate, particularly if that same Forge member spent the day suspecting the other Forge members.

Ah. Forgot about the timing of the Watchdwarf's message. That makes sense, then. Well, let's see what the Day brings, whether the KD xemself approves.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Eruhen

Seems to me that while lynching the KD is the way to go (if the other option is having him killed and potentially losing the Sweetheart too), doing so on Day 1 seems counter-productive, especially since the Watchdwarf will then be shooting in the dark (or would that be 'Dark'?) as to who to protect during the Nights.

Which would certainly be a disadvantage, to be sure. The KD would have to give unmistakable hints as to xyr mates to make it worthwhile.

[Eruhen]

Phantom, I can't see how your plan is any different than what normally happens on Day 1. Accusations and innuendos are thrown around, nothing can really be determined because we have no prior votes to go off of, and everyone ends up lynching whoever is most suspicious to them.

Odds are that we'll probably end up just offing an ordo, like usual. It's going to take a lot of luck to either get a fenris or make the KD dance the hemp fandango.

I just don't see how the KD could potentially make xymself a target without breaking our moddess' 'no reveals' rule, as both G55 and Inzil have stated.