WW LXXXVII - The Valley Forge

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by tp

The rules don't say he has to live to achieve victory. It merely says he wins if the baddies die.

Hmm, interesting. The N1 narration says

Originally Posted by Folwren

These they are that I must bring down, or go down in my attempt.

I read that as an exclusive or, but it could actually be inclusive, so the KD might be allowed to share a village victory even if dead, more or less like a cobbler earning bragging rights by sacrificing themselves to help the wolves win. Revisiting the rules, it looks like you're probably right.

Originally Posted by Boro

I'm afraid among other males only Jon Stewart could get that reaction from me.

As long as it's not Jon Snow...

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

As long as it's not Jon Snow...

The veteran newscaster and one time vice-chancellor or one of my alma maters? Rather random choice and personally I would prefer his rather dashing young cousin Dan but each to their own.....

Hmm Eruhen, I don't think we have met but you amuse me. You might be a keeper.... Galadriel you know me too well..... I suppose I ought to go to bed instead of listening to some woman fretting about motherhood. Don't know why she is bothering she appears to have called her daughter Cocoa which is pretty much total fail from get go..... presumably any future siblings will be Horlicks and Ovaltine... rambling now but I needed to share the lunacy...

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Eruhen

Phantom, I can't see how your plan is any different than what normally happens on Day 1. Accusations and innuendos are thrown around, nothing can really be determined because we have no prior votes to go off of, and everyone ends up lynching whoever is most suspicious to them.

The difference is that we don't lynch the most suspicious person this time, but rather we try and lynch the KD. Not that our chances are astronomical, but it requires a slightly different process.

Originally Posted by Eruhen

I just don't see how the KD could potentially make xymself a target without breaking our moddess' 'no reveals' rule, as both G55 and Inzil have stated.

It's possible. Not easy, but possible. Especially if you have people like me floating around just itching to make the lynch.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Especially if you have people like me floating around just itching to make the lynch.

"Floating"? "Itching"? The mystery is solved. The phantom is a mosquito.

[Inziladun]

Or not. At any rate, tp is doing his usual to bring the focus on him from the get-go.

Seems there are quite a few who have yet to make an appearance toDay.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Or not. At any rate, tp is doing his usual to bring the focus on him from the get-go.

Seems there are quite a few who have yet to make an appearance toDay.

I'm going to assume they're thinking like me, and that is waiting for phantom's brilliance to win. Why pile on more work for yourself now, right?

I think I can predict Day 2 discussion already...It's going to be phantom's genius is obviously too advanced for the time, and thus has no chance to succeed. Everyone scraps the idea completely and ignores it. Some will argue tp deserves to be lynched for it, others will defend him with much gusto and flair. Some will choose to look at votes to cast suspicion, some will fling out the most outrageous claims based on gut feelings, some won't have our best interest at hearts, and some will continue to vote randomly do to lack of time.

The positive news is there really can be no disastrous lynches on Day 1, as too often you see with gifteds getting lynched early. I mean, the one we most don't want to lynch would be the Watchdwarf, because I think tp's biggest point is the KD would serve us better as a known dead than an unknown cobbler against the Forge.

[Finduilas]

Oh dear, how terribly confusing.

I think it would be rather unfun if the KD did stuff purposely to die. I don't think that the plan is fool-proof, though of course, any werewolf strategy usually isn't (that is, if werewolf is enough like Mafia for me to be able to say that). And also, Phantom suggested that the Sweetheart be a turncoat and do her best to get the fellow killed. That's just wrong... from a story point of view. As to whether it's logical game-wise, I'll think about it as I lay in bed tonight thinking about evil dwarves. Not that me thinking it logical changes anything... But it would still be wrong...

Um, on a side note as an ignorant beginner, what does e/x, exed, xed stand for?

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Boro

The positive news is there really can be no disastrous lynches on Day 1

Yes, the fact that there is no Seer makes me much more at ease today than I usually am with a Day 1 lynch (where I customarily try to lynch an Ordo just to avoid the gifteds).

Ha ha, and your Day 2 prediction is just so right!

Originally Posted by Inzil

Seems there are quite a few who have yet to make an appearance toDay.

Yeah, still waiting.

Originally Posted by Finduilas

And also, Phantom suggested that the Sweetheart be a turncoat and do her best to get the fellow killed.

Ah, but if he's actually wishing to die, she wouldn't be betraying him by helping him carry out his wishes, would she?