Werewolf LXXXI: Under the Misty Mountains

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Yet, there is a big difference from one SoE gambling on a day1, to two SoE doing it. I would never say that we wouldn't see a SoE acting very bold/inexperienced on day1, it has been seen many times before, but for them to openly team up in such a gamble is more unlikely.

Which is why it didn't happen. One elf, yes, two elves, no.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Read my post again, Rune. The point is, Lottie's decision to vote phantom when she did might well have been something she decided for herself; therefore it doesn't tell us much about Sally.

I think what you're saying is that Lottie could have jumped onto my vote without my consent or prior knowledge/planning. Yes?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I think what you're saying is that Lottie could have jumped onto my vote without my consent or prior knowledge/planning. Yes?

Exactly.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Exactly.

Just checking.

[satansaloser2005]

Okay, so we know Phantom's not the seer, because....well, he's not and stuff, so the reveal at the end of yesterDay was likely either to protect the seer (for which we should all thank him, because we love our seer, don't we?) or to make it look like he was so he could get a pass toDay. Really, though, I don't think he would do that as a wolf, at least not on the first Day and without at least some reasoning he could point at to avoid getting lynched. Besides which, this is getting him attention, which is what he wants more than most things in the world (apart from rep votes, of course, and that's mostly the same thing). So basically I don't think we should pay too much attention to it, at least not now.

You know what we should pay attention to? The vote count I'm about to make.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Sally

Okay, so we know Phantom's not the seer, because....well, he's not and stuff, so the reveal at the end of yesterDay was likely either to protect the seer (for which we should all thank him, because we love our seer, don't we?) or to make it look like he was so he could get a pass toDay. Really, though, I don't think he would do that as a wolf, at least not on the first Day and without at least some reasoning he could point at to avoid getting lynched.

This and your argument about phantom's failing to vote being a point in his favour are both too... conjectural for my taste. Too much depend on your ability to predict what he'd do.

Case in point:

Originally Posted by Sally

he would likely be happy to vote for a packmate. It would make him look good, in fact. Thus, why wouldn't he just pile his votes on and say "look at me, I killed Lottie" and add to his train of Reasons Not to Suspect Phantom?

Funny thing is, though– phantom himself says earlier that he would never do that.
You see, he argues that it's in his favour, too, but for the exact opposite reason.

Actually, there are a couple of points in his favour: one is the rather obvious one that what he did was practically a request to get himself dreamed. The other is more subtle and indeed tenuous – the way Lottie kept responding to questions about her own behaviour with defences of tp, though it's true the two were related– framing attempt? It's possible.

[Nerwen]

Anyway, let's get the voting started:

++Shasta for representative++

[satansaloser2005]

And may I ask: why Shasta?