Did Maedhros kill Laughter?

[Pitchwife]

Much to my own surprise, I feel moved to defend Urwen on the question of Lalaithberry's transformation. Back in BoLT, Turin and Nienor(i) were said to have been purified in Fôs 'Almir, the Bath of the Flame, after their death and counted among the Valar afterwards. Most likely this early conception was long abandoned by the time Tolkien wrote the Narn, but it shows that the idea of a similar posthumous fate for their sister is not as utterly un-Tolkienian as it seems at first sight.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Much to my own surprise, I feel moved to defend Urwen on the question of Lalaithberry's transformation. Back in BoLT, Turin and Nienor(i) were said to have been purified in Fôs 'Almir, the Bath of the Flame, after their death and counted among the Valar afterwards. Most likely this early conception was long abandoned by the time Tolkien wrote the Narn, but it shows that the idea of a similar posthumous fate for their sister is not as utterly un-Tolkienian as it seems at first sight.

Yes, but that's Book of Lost Tales– very different conception of– well, everything, really. Was Lalaith even in that?

Besides, how could Lalaithberry kill Glaurung, etc. anyway?

Or has she just abandoned all her previous goals, Urwen? Come on, you can't give up now!

[Beorn of Carrock]

Lalaith isn't mentioned in the Book of Lost Tales.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Beorn of Carrock

Lalaith isn't mentioned in the Book of Lost Tales.

Thanks, Beorn.

I didn't think so.

[Urwen]

All right.I'll give you something to work with.

(FIRST AGE OF SUN,AT TOL-N-GAURHOTH)

Sauron left his tower, when a voice spoke.Sauron felt a grip on his neck.

VOICE: You're Morgoth's servant,aren't you?

SAURON:Yes...

VOICE:Well,he could have you back if he undos the curse on Turin and Nienor...

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Urwen

All right.I'll give you something to work with.

(FIRST AGE OF SUN,AT TOL-N-GAURHOTH)

Sauron left his tower, when a voice spoke.Sauron felt a grip on his neck.

VOICE: You're Morgoth's servant,aren't you?

SAURON:Yes...

VOICE:Well,he could have you back if he undos the curse on Turin and Nienor...

You have your chronology mixed up, my dear. There was no tower on Tol-in-Gaurhoth by the time Morgoth cursed Húrin's kiddies. It had been Lúthiened*.

That aside... um... what's the point of all this?
*is overcome by sudden sense of déjà vu*



*She rules, by the way, and don't let Mithalwen tell you any different.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

*She rules, by the way, and don't let Mithalwen tell you any different.

She so doesn't.. she does naff all until until that humungous gloop turns up. Then she gets Finrod killed. Death was too good for her.

The only interesting women in Tolkien are blondes .... Galadriel, Idril, Nienor, Erendis, Eowyn. The brunettes are deified but dreary.