Did Maedhros kill Laughter?

[Urwen]

I did it to point out that she didn't kill the butterfly.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Urwen

I did it to point out that she didn't kill the butterfly.

But look what she's done now, Urwen! She just interrupted Brandir in the middle of proposing to Niniel! Just think, Niniel could have married him instead of Túrin, and the whole horrible tragedy could have been averted– but noooo, that Lalaith just had to barge in on them at the crucial moment and ruin everything.

Again.

And we all thought Túrin was a jinx.

[Urwen]

And one other:

Turin tries to climb up to Glaurung. Lalaith comes, accompanied by Kiki,Totoro,Kim,Jason,Cristy,Chihiro,Haku,Taran,Ei lonwy,Kathe,Cora and other heroic children


Lalaith:We came to help you!

Mwahahaha!

[the phantom]

Well now I have no idea what sub-forum this thread belongs in. I don't actually think we have a forum for this sort of thing. Create a new one?

[Urwen]

Haha. That was only a joke.

But seriously, Lalaith's death was Maedhros' fault. Need proof? Here goes....

Maedhros:I'll defeat you, Morgoth!

Morgoth(from Angband): I don't think so,loser! Mwahahaha!

Maedhros:I will!

Morgoth(snarl):Your wish!

___________________

Lalaith:I'm dying...(dies)

There you go!

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Haha. That was only a joke.

But seriously, Lalaith's death was Maedhros' fault. Need proof? Here goes....

Maedhros:I'll defeat you, Morgoth!

Morgoth(from Angband): I don't think so,loser! Mwahahaha!

Maedhros:I will!

Morgoth(snarl):Your wish!

___________________

Lalaith:I'm dying...(dies)

There you go!

Eh? How does that prove anything?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Well now I have no idea what sub-forum this thread belongs in. I don't actually think we have a forum for this sort of thing. Create a new one?

I think we'd better. What could we call it, do you think?

Originally Posted by Urwen

Haha. That was only a joke.

So... you're not joking otherwise? Dear me.

[Mnemosyne]

Regarding Eomer's Lalaith-as-a-Warg theory, I'm sure the Wargs would never have allowed one of their own to suffer--in fact, I doubt that Wargs, with their superior constitution, would have even been affected by the plague.

All we have on this story is Turin's testimony, and he was delirious at the time of Lalaith's so-called "death". We actually have no eye-witness testimony that she died.

Lalaith didn't die. She just went home*.




*In fact, Lalaith (not her real name, obviously. Even Urwen was a cover for her true Wargish name) was sent to the House of Hurin to be fostered and learn somewhat of mortal ways before being called to her Higher Mission of Being Awesome and Stuff. It is said that if Turin had known of her true nature and thus believed that Lalaith Lives! (tm), her awesomeness would have been able to protect him from afar and thus prevent the curse from ever falling upon him. But Morwen believed in giving her son a healthy dose of reality, colloquially known as "Life's an Adjective's Mother**," so that that way he would be prepared to deal with fits of emo passion, talking swords, and other matters of that ilk, and so she lied to her son. That splinter that she got when Turin was riding off to be fostered was Lalaith's last reminder to tell him, and prevent the curse, but Morwen was too thick to see it and so Lalaith revoked her awesome protection even from Morwen in a fit of spite. Hurin was also aware of Lalaith's fate, but she had resolved never to protect him from any sort of curse after that one time he gave her a flea bath.

**There is a story behind this idiomatic expression, peculiar to Hithlum, but it's so esoteric that not even Carl Hostetter wanted to have anything to do with it.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

Regarding Eomer's Lalaith-as-a-Warg theory, I'm sure the Wargs would never have allowed one of their own to suffer--in fact, I doubt that Wargs, with their superior constitution, would have even been affected by the plague.

Your first statement is, regrettably, unreasonable; however, your second point is worthy of consideration. Wargs are famously resistant to disease (some would argue due to their divine essence).

I'll say right now that I don't buy the Lalaith-is-warg theory. I came across it in, oh... what was it called again? Unfurnished Tales? That sounds right. It gave off a distinct scent of historical-conspiracy-theory with its talk of anagrams, acronyms, ancient maps and beared keepers of certain gates. It basically came down to the author Tolkien inserting some sort of linguistic trick into his works.

I know, right? Crazy.

But Mnemo, your point about Turin's delirium and unreliability is fascinating. This Lalaith character could, feasibly, turn up anywhere. Any other mysteries in Tolkien's works, where she could fit in?

Why am I reminded of Legolas' hare right now?