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Urwen · 05-02-2010, 03:46 AM

Yesss, betray the Valar...

Don't forget that Morgoth was a Vala once.

Betray Morgoth's forces, of course! What else?

Let me clarify:

Those plotters planned to swear fealty to Morgoth, fight against elves and men for a while and then..join forces with ones they fought, with elvish trumpets and manish horns playing a sweet dramatic tune...

P.S. And as for the geese, they didn't work against Lalaith, but for her. Don't you see? They didn't want buttefly to take the credit! They wanted Lalaith herself to save her siblings, not some darn butterfly! And that's why they told her to squash it!

And forever and ever I'll work to defend Lalaith's honour!

Nerwen · 05-02-2010, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Yesss, betray the Valar...

Don't forget that Morgoth was a Vala once.

Betray Morgoth's forces, of course! What else?

Let me clarify:

Those plotters planned to swear fealty to Morgoth, fight against elves and men for a while and then..join forces with ones they fought, with elvish trumpets and manish horns playing a sweet dramatic tune...

I see. And Morgoth would trust them... why, exactly?

Nerwen · 05-02-2010, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

P.S. And as for the geese, they didn't work against Lalaith, but for her. Don't you see? They didn't want buttefly to take the credit! They wanted Lalaith herself to save her siblings, not some darn butterfly! And that's why they told her to squash it!

So, what went wrong? You know, seeing as Túrin and Nienor did, in fact, both come to a bad end? Remember?

Urwen · 05-02-2010, 06:37 AM

What went wrong is that Maedhros killed Lalaith before she and her pets geese could bring their plans to reality!

Nerwen · 05-02-2010, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

What went wrong is that Maedhros killed Lalaith before she and her pets geese could bring their plans to reality!

*sigh* Urwen, the reasons why Maedhros did not, in fact, kill Lalaith have been given multiple times now– I've already pointed this out. You, meanwhile, have failed to come up with a a single valid argument– not a one.

But very well then– what plans did Lalaith and the geese have?

Urwen · 05-02-2010, 06:54 AM

All right. I'll list their plans:

1.Save Turin.

2.Save Niniel.

3.Put lizzard into Morgoth's cushion.

4.Kill Glaurung.

5.Have Niniel marry Brandir and Lalaith marry Beleg.

6. Sail to the West with Beleg,Turin,Niniel and Brandir.

Those were their plans.

Nerwen · 05-02-2010, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

All right. I'll list their plans:

1.Save Turin.

2.Save Niniel.

3.Put lizzard into Morgoth's cushion.

4.Kill Glaurung.

5.Have Niniel marry Brandir and Lalaith marry Beleg.

6. Sail to the West with Beleg,Turin,Niniel and Brandir.

Those were their plans.

1. How?

2. How?

3. Why?

4. How?

5. ...So they saved Beleg too? Um... how?

6. Ooo, guess what I'm going to ask– that's right: How?

You see the problem? Those are not plans. They are merely goals. It is very nice to have goals, but not terribly useful, really, unless you have some feasible strategy for achieving them (see: plans).

Urwen · 05-02-2010, 09:14 AM

Goose1:No,mistress, it's too dangerous!
Lalaith:You're my pets.You should know I wish to save our race!
Goose1:But...
Goose2:That dragon is too dangerous!
Lalaith:Not for me!
Glaurung:You'd better listen to your pets,for I...

(Lalaith kills Glaurung in a second,climbs on Goose1's back and flies off to far away)

Have at it!

05-02-2010, 03:46 AM	#1
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Yesss, betray the Valar... Don't forget that Morgoth was a Vala once. Betray Morgoth's forces, of course! What else? Let me clarify: Those plotters planned to swear fealty to Morgoth, fight against elves and men for a while and then..join forces with ones they fought, with elvish trumpets and manish horns playing a sweet dramatic tune... P.S. And as for the geese, they didn't work against Lalaith, but for her. Don't you see? They didn't want buttefly to take the credit! They wanted Lalaith herself to save her siblings, not some darn butterfly! And that's why they told her to squash it! And forever and ever I'll work to defend Lalaith's honour! __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 05-02-2010 at 04:03 AM.

05-02-2010, 06:37 AM	#4
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	What went wrong is that Maedhros killed Lalaith before she and her pets geese could bring their plans to reality! __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-02-2010, 06:54 AM	#6
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	All right. I'll list their plans: 1.Save Turin. 2.Save Niniel. 3.Put lizzard into Morgoth's cushion. 4.Kill Glaurung. 5.Have Niniel marry Brandir and Lalaith marry Beleg. 6. Sail to the West with Beleg,Turin,Niniel and Brandir. Those were their plans. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-02-2010, 09:14 AM	#8
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Goose1:No,mistress, it's too dangerous! Lalaith:You're my pets.You should know I wish to save our race! Goose1:But... Goose2:That dragon is too dangerous! Lalaith:Not for me! Glaurung:You'd better listen to your pets,for I... (Lalaith kills Glaurung in a second,climbs on Goose1's back and flies off to far away) Have at it! __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.