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Old 03-18-2009, 05:48 PM   #1
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but my heart.... is with the Phantom and lynching him will hurt me more than him
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Of those "banterers only" I could vote for, I can only say the following right now.

Mirandir seems to have been the "lynch her!" - person. Calling a lynch for anything and all the time - jokingly of course - but still that seems to have been her modus operandi. I do not think she is a good-willed person but probably a cobbler more than a wereduck/-goose whatever.

Lari has made some interesting things after that banter-phase, like this speculation of a "good-cobbler" which Mac questioned for a reason. I think her explanation of that as a goodie who has more than one vote looks quite terribly fabricated (there was that kind of role earlier but that was not a cobbler) - and in a way something she possibly felt she had to come up with when she thought she was in trouble being questioned. That is no cobbler. Cobbler is something and wants to do the other thing.

The best possibility of a good cobbler I could come up with is one who wants to look foul but to make the case of the goodies behind that foul-mask (and that would require some extraordinary game-mechanics where the trust of the wolves could pay off to the good-cobbler and the village - maybe I'll include one in my next game from this idea?).

But her later idea about her, Nienna and Mira being together with a task from Day2 on looks even more weird. Like she wanted to press the indistinguishability of the three from each other. A wolf would love to make that impression: I am something these two are as well... and we're indistinguishable anyway we three? So you can't choose...

Brinn I really don't know what to say about her. She hasn't basically made any sense and she is one who should be able to do that. *Huge disappointment* I know she's the master-deceiver and manages to look innocent everytime - but she has also been unduly lynched for that a many times. And to get personal: she has been responsible of killing me in quite a many games lately far too early. *bad girl!* (takes back a bit after seeing her last post)

Need to think a minute about this all.

Where are you guys? There are gazillions of people in the invisible mode online but only a few post here so many of you must be around!

Many people have a role eg. they won't post as not to be suspected. Just check who could post and who is not doing it and make your calculations from that toMorrow. (meaning Mith is innocent as well as Brinn - possibly - and what about Legate, Lommy... bad! Unless they come up with a huge post in the near future explaining their silence right now with the fact that they are doing great tasks taking all their attention for hours).
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Old 03-18-2009, 05:52 PM   #2
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and what about Legate, Lommy... bad! Unless they come up with a huge post in the near future explaining their silence right now with the fact that they are doing great tasks taking all their attention for hours).
Does talking to each other on MSN count?
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:00 PM   #3
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Does talking to each other on MSN count?
I don't want to get a tough with this as Mith did the last time around but there is actually something that kind of is bad for the game there.

Not that people shouldn't socialise at all when a game is underway but when people interact privately while a game is on there is a feeling of... Well, hard to say.

I know we have lived under a same roof during weekends while a game has been on but that's a bit different. Or then I'm just an oldie not seeing the exact similarity.

Whatever. I have no time for this discussion anyway as I need to wake up quite early and I need to decide on my vote like now (2AM here).

So just to make a mild protest.
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:11 PM   #4
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But daddy dear, I swear the game has not and will not be mentioned.

I now know what's Nog's posting requirement - he's the complainer and has to complain about everything!

To be blunt, my problem is also that I can't get a grip of this game so I'm doing other stuff than trying to get a grip - talking with people on MSN, hanging around in Facebook etc. Pitiful, I know. I'll try to come up with something productive before I go to sleep.
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:33 PM   #5
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I don't want to get a tough with this as Mith did the last time around but there is actually something that kind of is bad for the game there.

Not that people shouldn't socialise at all when a game is underway but when people interact privately while a game is on there is a feeling of... Well, hard to say.
Since there are several players in this game who know one another quite well, private interactions are a bit unavoidable. So long as it doesn't affect the game or its outcome in any way, I see no problem with members part of the same game IMing each other.
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:47 PM   #6
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Unless you have an obligation to protect someone and/or attack someone else because of what your "role" * is...
A role is a role and not the same as behaviour modification. Suspicions and votes can give us clues to roles as people will make suspicions based on what their own role is. And while someone's behaviour may be entirely screwed up, I can't imagine the modification alone would ultimately affect their vote. Though I could be wrong...this is Sally's game after all...
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:21 PM   #7
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Okay, due to this behaviour modification, we really need to watch how we vote. That means we shouldn't vote for someone because they're too chatty, don't post enough, act annoying, etc. You never know...it could be a modification assignment. Instead, we should suspect/lynch based on who and what reasons players suspect one another. Going in that direction is more likely going to catch us a were-duck rather than just examining posting style, lack of serious participation, etc. In fact, I think it may be smart to carefully look at those who do choose to vote for someone based only on behaviour.
Perfectly, completely agreed. Makes me think good of ye.

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and what about Legate, Lommy... bad! Unless they come up with a huge post in the near future explaining their silence right now with the fact that they are doing great tasks taking all their attention for hours).
I am sorry, sir. Is that sufficient?

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I don't want to get a tough with this as Mith did the last time around but there is actually something that kind of is bad for the game there.

Not that people shouldn't socialise at all when a game is underway but when people interact privately while a game is on there is a feeling of... Well, hard to say.
But it does not concern the game at all. Besides, I never talk about WW outside the game (except when I am safely dead). (/end of out-game note)
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:28 PM   #8
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Instead, we should suspect/lynch based on who and what reasons players suspect one another.
(Good sentence to point out, I steal the quote from Nog) But is that really removed from their 'behavior', whatever our definition?

Nogrod, your last post confuses me greatly. Are you specifically addressing...Brinn and Lommy +...?

And LotR roles? I understand this is the Downs and all, but I'm not getting you.

But I don't care if I get an explanation and promise I won't go voting you for being confusing or anything. I don't want to keep you here when it's so late.

(Edit: Crossed with Legate and Lommy. Ah, they don't get him either...)
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:32 PM   #9
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What are the votes this far anyway?
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:33 PM   #10
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Lommy and Legate, you are so cute right now, btw.
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:37 PM   #11
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The Votes:

234 Rikae >> Nogrod (1)
237 Macalaure >> Gwathagor (1)
253 Mithalwen >> Lariren (1)
254 Kath >> Brinniel (1)
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Lommy and Legate, you are so cute right now, btw.
Awww thanks.

*is freaked out by Noggie and his role* (Hmmm... maybe he's Lobelia and has to complain about everything like I suggested... )

I feel like I could vote Lari. It's the vote I'd probably feel the most comfortable with. (Although, that does not guarantee it's a good vote.)


edit: xed with Durie
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:43 PM   #13
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You sicken me all.

A plague on all your posts.

++Village

++Sally and Mnemo

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I'll be here tomorrow, though now I wish I weren't.

Post-traumatic possums: My mum is, of course, exempted from the sickening and the plague, and, oh yeah, the vote:

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Old 03-18-2009, 06:48 PM   #14
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Wow. Hi Nilp.

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Does that count as one of his two retractions for the game?

(Edit: Crossed with a perhaps not quite as grumpy as Nilp but still grumpy Mira. Oh, and Brinn, too.)
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:56 PM   #15
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Wow. Hi Nilp.

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Does that count as one of his two retractions for the game?
Hi Dury . . . Dure . . . Dűrin?

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Old 03-18-2009, 08:18 PM   #16
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Fea - Has been busy with school. Boo. Need to hear more from her.

Brinn - Needs to get more sleep. Also needs to post more. But what she has said doesn't look too suspicious.

wilwa - No idea.

Shasta - Makes references that confuse me. Will keep an eye on him.

Durie - Stole my vote count idea. Should lynch him just for that. Just kidding. Stats are good.

Nog - If we were playing the "whoever analyzes most is clearly evil" game, Nog would win. Otherwise his posts look solid and not too suspicious.

Izzy - Need to hear more from.

Nerwen - Need to hear more from to get a read.

Rikae - Bubbles. Heh heh...Beyond that, no idea.

Mith - Need to hear more from.

Kath - Apparently worried about a Day 1 lynch for Gwath. Suspicious.

Lari - Apparently now looks like a good lynch choice for no good reason as far as I can tell. Will keep an eye on her.

Mac - No read on him so far. Need to hear more.

Nienna - Newbie. Gets Day 1 protection from me at least.

Gwath - Apparently can't be lynched toDay at risk of everyone being modfired.

Lommie - Seems very very confused and frustrated...but is that because she actually is or because she's been told to act that way. Also voted Lari for banter. Suspicious.

Legate - Needs to post more.

Nilp - Suicidal. Suspicious.

Sorry that took so incredibly long for such a short post. I feel like if I make a more detailed post I'm going to miss deadline and as we learned last game, that is a very bad life choice. If anyone wants elaboration, I'll do my best to give it.
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Well Nogrod, you see, I am not quite myself at the moment, but it is pointless to consult a cardiologist or even a psychiatrist as there is no cure known to medicine. Woe is me....


Your early vote is a bit of a change too....

Well I have had a quick read through and what a lot has happened. I need to digest have a think another quick read and drive 20 miles to a cyber cafe so I shall be gone a little while and back for a long one. I shall not be idle.
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Sorry to double post but ...
and I am sorry not to be in the in crowd and out of the loop but could people please use other players screen names or obvious derivatives thereof?

I am finding this game confusing enough without having to cope with Michael Jackson's chimp and the answer to "what's brown and sticky?"
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and I am sorry not to be in the in crowd and out of the loop but could people please use other players screen names or obvious derivatives thereof?

I am finding this game confusing enough without having to cope with Michael Jackson's chimp and the answer to "what's brown and sticky?"


Awwwww, poor ickle Mith....*hugs you*


Bubbles=Mac
Stick (or any derivative thereof)=Mira


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