Middle-earth Bad Popularity Cup - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 01-31-2009, 07:34 PM

Going with the flow for a change... and agreeing with Eonwë and Andsigil... and the phantom as well with the indecisiveness.

So I've made up my mind.

++ Scatha

It was an outrageous thing to call Ancalagon off so let's see the dragons prevail even once!

Tuor in Gondolin · 01-31-2009, 08:15 PM

In stunning news to the arachnid world
Scatha the Worm ousted heavy
favorite Shelob 6-3, raising the
real possibility of three dragons in the
Sweet Sixteen, although both Smaug
and the Father of Dragons (makes you
wonder who the mother was

) will
face some stiff competition.

Next match:
the White Cats (of Queen Beruthiel) vs. Tom
(can a hoard of cats take out a troll obviously
born within the sound of Bow Bells ?

A Little Green · 02-01-2009, 08:18 AM

The cats of Queen Beruthiel must be among the most intriguing barely-mentioned stories included in the LotR. I would have loved to know more about them. Besides, cats are wonderful creatures. I adore them. So:

++ the White Cats

And I have to comment on the off-topic discussion going on here: the Army of the Dead was essential for getting rid of the Corsairs, but what were the Corsairs for? Tolkien could have left them out if he had wanted to, with no serious damage to his plot.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-01-2009, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Little Green

And I have to comment on the off-topic discussion going on here: the Army of the Dead was essential for getting rid of the Corsairs, but what were the Corsairs for? Tolkien could have left them out if he had wanted to, with no serious damage to his plot.

Well, they were there in order to make Sauron's armies being stronger than Gondor, and disallowing Minas Tirith getting all reinforcements it could - so that somebody may come and save it all with sudden change of winds, just like Aragorn did with the Dead

So, you see, it's a sort of infinite circle.

Anyway - to the task at hand - while Tom is, of all the three trolls, the most stupid (in my opinion, and now thinking not about the intellect, but about the general behavior) and the one I really don't like much, still, he is a Troll, and I like him more than the cats. I am not a huge fan of the tale of the cats, I never found it particularly interesting. Not at all, in fact. I am also voting him a bit as a deputy of his fellow Bert, who, unfortunately, did not make it among the candidates. So,

++Tom the Troll

(I hope everybody understands that Tuor meant this one, and not the other fella with the same name and yellow boots

Hey, isn't it interesting how some names reoccur, a pity we don't have two Berts as well...)

Morthoron · 02-01-2009, 10:05 AM

++Tom the Troll

Although I think William and Bert should have been included as a trio, sort of the Three Stooges of Middle-earth. Soitanly, nyuk-nyuk-nyuk!

Tuor in Gondolin · 02-01-2009, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Although I think William and Bert should have been included as a trio, sort of the Three Stooges of Middle-earth. Soitanly, nyuk-nyuk-nyuk!

Soitenly!
Tom (definitely not Tom Bombadil):
"Bert, William, the cheese!"
"Bert, William, the cheese!"

Andsigil · 02-01-2009, 02:20 PM

Cats??? Please...

++Tom the Troll, all the way. I can't wait to see the trio of trolls in "The Hobbit" film.

Nogrod · 02-01-2009, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Going with the flow for a change... and agreeing with Eonwë and Andsigil... and the phantom as well with the indecisiveness.

So I've made up my mind.

++ Scatha

It was an outrageous thing to call Ancalagon off so let's see the dragons prevail even once!

Oh my! That was my 5000th post! And I missed any celebrations!

But to the topic.

I like cats as well as Greenie but c'mon there's no question on this one

++ Tom

But I would like to wonder about the sanity (or evilness) of the mod setting such marvellous characters up against each other on the previous rounds and now presenting us with this choice. To be earnest, both candidates on this round would have lost to anyone on the previous ones...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-01-2009, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skip spence

Agreed. An actor with a nice paint job would be much better than anything they will accomplish with CG. That said, don't be overly pessimistic. It might just become a decent enough movie, who can tell?

You are right, one can always hope for the good result coming out of that. Though still, in any case, it will be just a movie. Ah well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But I would like to wonder about the sanity (or evilness) of the mod setting such marvellous characters up against each other on the previous rounds and now presenting us with this choice. To be earnest, both candidates on this round would have lost to anyone on the previous ones...

I thought exactly the other way around. Now there are coming candidates I really start to like, I didn't really care that much about those before.

Groin Redbeard · 02-01-2009, 05:02 PM

I hate cats!

Besides, the trolls offer good comic relief.

++Tom

Tuor in Gondolin · 02-01-2009, 05:09 PM

+ + White Cats

Because if they lose it might be necessary to
think of 101 things to do with them.

Aganzir · 02-01-2009, 05:30 PM

++Catsies

Because I feel more like voting for a cat than a troll now.

Tuor in Gondolin · 02-01-2009, 07:31 PM

White Cats of Queen Beruthiel -3
Tom - 7

One of the cats was heard to hiss as she left:

Quote:

"Death is but a door. Time is but a window. I'll be back."

Btw, about the seeding pitting strong candidates against each
other in the first round, I sympathize- and probably objectively
agree- but the reasoning was twofold a) to give longshots a
punchers chance of advancing several rounds, and b) to mitigate
favorites getting virtual byes and make the start of the contest
in the first round overall more competitive. I think the actual effect
is probably minimal, making rounds 1,3,4 the more competitive as
contrasted to 2,3, 4 in more usual seeding.

OOPS! Next up is one of those tough first round matches:
Smaug vs. Drauglin

About Smaug:

Quote:

"To say that Bilbo's breath was taken away is no description at all. There is no words left to express his staggerment, since Men changed the language that they learned of elves in the days when all the world was wonderful."

"It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him. [...] His rage passes description - the sort of rage that is only seen when rich folk that have more than they can enjoy suddenly lose something that they have long had but have never before used or wanted. His fire belched forth, the hall smoked, he shook the mountain-roots. [...] He issued from the Gate, the waters rose in fierce whistling steam, and up he soared blazing into the air and settled on the mountain-top in a spout of green and scarlet flame."

About Drauglin:

Quote:

A dread beast, old in evil lord and sire of the werewolves of Angband.

A mightier shadow slowly filled
the narrow bridge, a slavering hate,
an awful werewolf fierce and great:
pale Draugluin, the old grey lord
of wolves and beasts of blood abhorred,
that fed on flesh of Man and Elf
beneath the chair of Thû himself.

01-31-2009, 07:34 PM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Going with the flow for a change... and agreeing with Eonwë and Andsigil... and the phantom as well with the indecisiveness. So I've made up my mind. ++ Scatha It was an outrageous thing to call Ancalagon off so let's see the dragons prevail even once! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

01-31-2009, 08:15 PM	#2
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	In stunning news to the arachnid world Scatha the Worm ousted heavy favorite Shelob 6-3, raising the real possibility of three dragons in the Sweet Sixteen, although both Smaug and the Father of Dragons (makes you wonder who the mother was ) will face some stiff competition. Next match: the White Cats (of Queen Beruthiel) vs. Tom (can a hoard of cats take out a troll obviously born within the sound of Bow Bells ? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

02-01-2009, 08:18 AM	#3
A Little Green Leaf-clad Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,571	The cats of Queen Beruthiel must be among the most intriguing barely-mentioned stories included in the LotR. I would have loved to know more about them. Besides, cats are wonderful creatures. I adore them. So: ++ the White Cats And I have to comment on the off-topic discussion going on here: the Army of the Dead was essential for getting rid of the Corsairs, but what were the Corsairs for? Tolkien could have left them out if he had wanted to, with no serious damage to his plot. __________________ "But some stories, small, simple ones about setting out on adventures or people doing wonders, tales of miracles and monsters, have outlasted all the people who told them, and some of them have outlasted the lands in which they were created."

02-01-2009, 10:05 AM	#5
Morthoron Curmudgeonly Wordwraith Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ensconced in curmudgeonly pursuits Posts: 2,515	++Tom the Troll Although I think William and Bert should have been included as a trio, sort of the Three Stooges of Middle-earth. Soitanly, nyuk-nyuk-nyuk! __________________ And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision.

02-01-2009, 02:20 PM	#7
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	Cats??? Please... ++Tom the Troll, all the way. I can't wait to see the trio of trolls in "The Hobbit" film. __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

02-01-2009, 05:02 PM	#10
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	I hate cats! Besides, the trolls offer good comic relief. ++Tom __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

02-01-2009, 05:09 PM	#11
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	+ + White Cats Because if they lose it might be necessary to think of 101 things to do with them. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

02-01-2009, 05:30 PM	#12
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	++Catsies Because I feel more like voting for a cat than a troll now. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

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