WW LXXXIX: The Terror of Tol Fuin

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I am around only for a brief entry, will be away then and around only for the somewhat later part of the Day...

Opening with a random remark:

Originally Posted by Kitanna

I remember that oh so well. 'twas my first game and no one gave me this so-called "newbie pass". Rather I was mercilessly killed on Day 2...

But newbie passes usually go only for Day 1. Relatedly, this also means that I am no longer bound by it when it comes to voting newbies

Now, to the other stuff - as for why Shasta died, I would not dare to say anything definite, but I would incline to what Nilp said:

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

However, I'm slightly more inclined to think that they thought that he was just too sharp (which he seem to have a reputation of.)

He was also simply the first one in the row of Lottie-voters, and this time all of them look rather innocent, so killing one of them was probably a good option.

As for the Lottie-voters themselves, I am not very suspicious of them (especially as I am one of them too, "Of course I know him! He's me!"). Nog, as the "last nail", does not make very much of a sense for a W-on-W vote (okay, it can be, but the voting yesterDay was interesting in that quite many people did not vote, or voted rather randomly in the last few minutes). And I don't really think Lommy is a Wolf either, despite what e.g. Kitanna says. The comment "now wondering how the outcome..." she cleared for me already yesterDay and I can understand it the way she had put it, simply having second thoughts now that suddenly one finds herself a part of a huge (or, "huge") bandwagon - that of course can make one wonder "did I fall into some Wolvish trap of a bandwagon for innocent?" (especially as there doesn't seem to be any worthy contesting bandwagon!). I mean, a Wolf, seeing her friend lynched, would not suddenly come out shouting "oh my, I wonder how this is going to end!", but rather stay quiet. What good will it bring to her? Therefore, I really see all Lottie-voters rather okay for the time being.

I have grown a bit unsure about Galadriel toDay, because of her rather strongly defensive posting. I mean, it is mostly just defense. Sure, there are some accusations or suspicions from Kitanna and such, but her first post toDay starts with defense of her actions yesterDay - was it necessary? Or does she just feel over-threatened? "When I voted it did not seem like a throwaway vote at all." And then explanation. Was it necessary?

And the vague suspicion of Lommy also seems to me quite odd. Also, clinging to it toDay might be an attempt to appear consistent. This:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I'm still thinking about this. She voted for Lottie (who we now know is a wolf), but apologises for it. Of course, that could be an innocent thinking she's going on a Lottiewagon, but it could be something much more sinister. I'm more inclined towards the former, but you never know!

as you can notice, ends with the typical "of course, it is... but maybe it is... but you never know!" Vague without saying much. I think I will be watching G55 toDay rather closely.

Also her analysis of the Shasta-case:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I recall a few people suspecting Lottie earlier in the thread, some even said they intend to vote her, but none really making one solid argumentive "summarizing" case against her until Shasta did. Now where did that stroke of inspiration come on him? He was debating a bit about everyone, but more about me, sally, Kit, and Bom. In 134 he considers voting [B]Sally/B], but wants more thought from her before a final decision. Then considers vote for Kit, but discards it because she'd be a throw-away.

Decides he'll analyze Lottie and does so in #138. Votes. More people follow.

The way I understood Shasta's post#134 is that Lottie wasn't his top priority, and that he'd rather vote for Kit, or possibly Sally. Interesting. But lucky that he voted Lottie.

sounds like something she could have come up together with her packmate at Night, and the "but lucky that he voted Lottie" sounds just false - random - weird ending of it all. "Interesting" and all that, why to say that? I would have almost expected it ending "...Lottie wasn't his top priority, but he voted her, which is interesting. Therefore, we have decided he was the Seer and killed him." and now she just replaced it by the "lucky that he voted Lottie" for the public reading.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

More importantly, though, we also have a known wolf to look at, and G55 happens to be the only person that wolf went after.

So, the key question, then is: how likely is it that Wolflote would make a wolf-on-wolf attack on Wolf55 at that point and in that way?

Valid question. Unfortunately, right now I don't have time to write more about that, and I shall be back at the computer only later during the Day. But I can try to think about that.

So, I'll be back later. For the time being, to summarise - I think Nog and Lommy are innocent, and I am watchful of G55, and also from the impressions of their posting, Nilp looks rather good and Nerwen maybe too. Hope to see other not-so-much-clear-posters posting around toDay too.

EDIT: x-ed with all Eomers. He's exactly one of those I would like to get a clearer picture of...