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Old 09-15-2015, 11:42 AM   #7
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(Note in this context that Melian "healed" him, in other words ameliorated the Melkorian poisons at work in his heart).
This, as far as I know, was an addition by CT (not J.R.R.) in his revision Of the Ruin of Doriath in the published "Silmarillion".

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But Turin and Hurin were Men, and Men have no "destiny:' they aren't bound by the Music.
I know that - and that is precisely why I am of opinion that Morgoth had no inherent power to alter the will of Ilúvatar - Morgoth, of course, could, and did, make the lives of Elves and Men miserable - but the fact is: Morgoth could NOT affect the free will of neither Elves nor Men (or at least their fëar) - he could only achieve his "curse" by indirect means - through Túrin's and Morwen's pride - and through Glaurung.
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