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igorus · 06-01-2010, 09:57 PM

I would like help translating a phrase into Quenya, please! Sorry, I don't know if this is the appropriate board to post this in.. sorry for my noobiness.
It is short and sweet, "Child of the Lord". I am thinking of getting it for a tattoo, but I want to be completely sure I have it right. According to what I have found, it should be something along the lines of "heruhín" but I'm not exactly sure.

Loslote · 06-01-2010, 10:00 PM

That's what I would think, but I'm no expert - just look at my name! (Half Quenya, half Sindarin by accident.

) Actually, do you want of THE Lord, or just A Lord? If THE Lord, you'd need "Hin i Heru".

igorus · 06-01-2010, 10:06 PM

Well, I'm basing it mostly on the Quenya index in the back of the Silmarillion. There, it says that "Children of Eru" is "Eruhini" so just by logical deduction, I figured that "Child of (the) Lord" would be "heruhin". But if you say so..
What is the difference between a lord and the Lord, grammatically?

btw, thank you for the speedy reply.

Loslote · 06-01-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by igorus

Well, I'm basing it mostly on the Quenya index in the back of the Silmarillion. There, it says that "Children of Eru" is "Eruhini" so just by logical deduction, I figured that "Child of (the) Lord" would be "heruhin". But if you say so..
What is the difference between a lord and the Lord, grammatically?

btw, thank you for the speedy reply.

"lord" is the general term, used to describe any lord. The Lord is specific - it describes one lord in particular - and a single "i" is used to indicate "the" in Quenya. An example of this is "Narn i Hin Hurin", the tale of the Children of Hurin.

igorus · 06-01-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

"lord" is the general term, used to describe any lord. The Lord is specific - it describes one lord in particular - and a single "i" is used to indicate "the" in Quenya. An example of this is "Narn i Hin Hurin", the tale of the Children of Hurin.

So, taking the "i Hin Hurin" part and replacing Hurin with Heru, you would get Children of the Lord". This makes total sense. So, how would I make this plural "Children" and make it a singular "child"?

Loslote · 06-01-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by igorus

So, taking the "i Hin Hurin" part and replacing Hurin with Heru, you would get Children of the Lord". This makes total sense. So, how would I make this plural "Children" and make it a singular "child"?

That's the bit I'm not certain about. Usually adding "i" to the end of a word makes it plural, but this has the plural as being "hin" not "hini"...I think the singular is "hin".

06-01-2010, 09:57 PM	#1
igorus Newly Deceased Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 7	A little translation help.. I would like help translating a phrase into Quenya, please! Sorry, I don't know if this is the appropriate board to post this in.. sorry for my noobiness. It is short and sweet, "Child of the Lord". I am thinking of getting it for a tattoo, but I want to be completely sure I have it right. According to what I have found, it should be something along the lines of "heruhín" but I'm not exactly sure.

06-01-2010, 10:00 PM	#2
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	That's what I would think, but I'm no expert - just look at my name! (Half Quenya, half Sindarin by accident. ) Actually, do you want of THE Lord, or just A Lord? If THE Lord, you'd need "Hin i Heru". __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

06-01-2010, 10:06 PM	#3
igorus Newly Deceased Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 7	Well, I'm basing it mostly on the Quenya index in the back of the Silmarillion. There, it says that "Children of Eru" is "Eruhini" so just by logical deduction, I figured that "Child of (the) Lord" would be "heruhin". But if you say so.. What is the difference between a lord and the Lord, grammatically? btw, thank you for the speedy reply.