Awern ROTK scene in TTT preview! - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mornie Alantie · 04-01-2003, 01:49 PM

I have seen TTT 9 times in theater, but I decided to watch the preview on <A HREF="http://www.lordofthering.net" TARGET=_blank>www.lordofthering.net</A> (go to close to the top and it list the movies click the two towers) Well, I watched it a couple of time and the part when Arwen says "you have the gift of forsight, tell me what you have seen." At first it appeared to be just a deleted scene from TTT, but then I realized that as she ran in Elfbarren Rivendell (etra evidence that it is ROTK) Elrond was at a desk by himself. But before she gets to the stairs she drops the cloak that she was wearing when she left Rivendell in TTT. So It is to be concluded that she returns to Rivendell!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is also known that Narsil is reforged in the beginning of ROTK. Which give the Rumor possiblility that she gives Narsil/Andruil to Aragorn in Rohan a very good chance to be true! The dots are connecting, for good or ill.Anothing is the not in movie part when Elrond says, "the Alliance between men and elves is over."(then it continues saying, Our time here is ending, Arwen's time is ending. Let her Go") Isn't that cool? It just connects like a really cool LOTR puzzle.

Meela · 04-01-2003, 02:20 PM

well... I just went and posted a new topic on an Arwen scene only miscontinuation, not continuation.I love it when everything fits together liek a jigsaw! And I have noticed how a lot of other movie scenes get thrown into Fotr/TTT trailers. I was kind of confused about the Arwen/Elrond scene before. I assumed it linked into the TTT scene. Thanks for the explaination Did she return to Rivendell in the books? Did she have a reason for returning? My head is telling me its Aragorn-related reasons, with the whole "he is not coming back" scene.

Mornie Alantie · 04-01-2003, 02:36 PM

Actaully, She never left Rivendell in the TTT book, in fact, i don't think she was even in it beyond being mentioned if that! But PJ needed a romance in it. Any way.

GaladrieloftheOlden · 04-01-2003, 02:42 PM

I wonder where Arwen was going in TTT. Maybe she had decided to go to the Havens or something. But then how would she be there for Aragorn? Maybe she gets wailaid by orcs or something....that would be proper PJ stuff. That might have something to do with her coming back, if there's something like that in a movie. But then, maybe she was just going for a late walk... [ April 01, 2003: Message edited by: GaladrieloftheOlden ]

Mornie Alantie · 04-01-2003, 02:50 PM

No. The elves were Almost etirely going to the havens at that time. Only a few such as Elrond, Galadriel and such stayed. The elves we saw were on their way to the Havens. Arwen Obviously just decides to go back. Also I have seen many Pics and Clips of Elrond and one (or two) of Arwen at Lothlorien. But I heard Arwen was supposed to take Narsil/Andruil to Aragorn. Also on another trailer there is one of Arwen and Aragorn meeting and Kissing, which could very well be the part when she brings him Narsil/Andruil.

Mornie Alantie · 04-01-2003, 02:56 PM

And another thing! In the other Preview they show either Arwen or Elrond (both of them where long clothes so I cant tell) approach the shards of Narsil.

HCIsland · 04-01-2003, 09:40 PM

Good observations. I can see how the lines even fit to the beginning of RoTK.Very early in the film we see Arwen returning to Rivendell and Elrond asking what she is doing back.Arwen: You have the power of forsight. Tell me what you have seen? Elrond: He is not coming back. Arwen: Then I'm going to do something about it.Despite Elrond's protests she goes to get the reforged Narsil/Anduril and sets off.Just shooting in the dark.H.C.

Mornie Alantie · 04-02-2003, 08:30 AM

Actually the part where Elrond says, "he is not coming back" Was in the actual Two Towers. If you look the lighting is way different between the two. But Elrond says that when he was convincing her to leave.

HCIsland · 04-02-2003, 09:35 AM

Oops, so much for that idea.H.C.

Mornie Alantie · 04-02-2003, 10:50 AM

I bet they will have Elrond and Arwen travel to Lothlorien with Narsil/Andruil. But who can read the mind of PJ? For he is quick to seperate from the book and unpredictable.

04-01-2003, 01:49 PM	#1
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	Awern ROTK scene in TTT preview! I have seen TTT 9 times in theater, but I decided to watch the preview on <A HREF="http://www.lordofthering.net" TARGET=_blank>www.lordofthering.net</A> (go to close to the top and it list the movies click the two towers) Well, I watched it a couple of time and the part when Arwen says "you have the gift of forsight, tell me what you have seen." At first it appeared to be just a deleted scene from TTT, but then I realized that as she ran in Elfbarren Rivendell (etra evidence that it is ROTK) Elrond was at a desk by himself. But before she gets to the stairs she drops the cloak that she was wearing when she left Rivendell in TTT. So It is to be concluded that she returns to Rivendell!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is also known that Narsil is reforged in the beginning of ROTK. Which give the Rumor possiblility that she gives Narsil/Andruil to Aragorn in Rohan a very good chance to be true! The dots are connecting, for good or ill.<P>Anothing is the not in movie part when Elrond says, "the Alliance between men and elves is over."(then it continues saying, Our time here is ending, Arwen's time is ending. Let her Go")<P><BR>Isn't that cool? It just connects like a really cool LOTR puzzle. __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

04-01-2003, 02:20 PM	#2
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	well... I just went and posted a new topic on an Arwen scene only miscontinuation, not continuation.<P>I love it when everything fits together liek a jigsaw! And I have noticed how a lot of other movie scenes get thrown into Fotr/TTT trailers. I was kind of confused about the Arwen/Elrond scene before. I assumed it linked into the TTT scene. Thanks for the explaination <BR>Did she return to Rivendell in the books? Did she have a reason for returning? My head is telling me its Aragorn-related reasons, with the whole "he is not coming back" scene. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

04-01-2003, 02:36 PM	#3
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	Actaully, She never left Rivendell in the TTT book, in fact, i don't think she was even in it beyond being mentioned if that! But PJ needed a romance in it. Any way. __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

04-01-2003, 02:42 PM	#4
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,514	I wonder where Arwen was going in TTT. Maybe she had decided to go to the Havens or something. But then how would she be there for Aragorn? Maybe she gets wailaid by orcs or something....that would be proper PJ stuff. That might have something to do with her coming back, if there's something like that in a movie. But then, maybe she was just going for a late walk... <BR> <p>[ April 01, 2003: Message edited by: GaladrieloftheOlden ] __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."

04-01-2003, 02:50 PM	#5
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	No. The elves were Almost etirely going to the havens at that time. Only a few such as Elrond, Galadriel and such stayed. The elves we saw were on their way to the Havens. Arwen Obviously just decides to go back. Also I have seen many Pics and Clips of Elrond and one (or two) of Arwen at Lothlorien. But I heard Arwen was supposed to take Narsil/Andruil to Aragorn. Also on another trailer there is one of Arwen and Aragorn meeting and Kissing, which could very well be the part when she brings him Narsil/Andruil. __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

04-01-2003, 02:56 PM	#6
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	And another thing! In the other Preview they show either Arwen or Elrond (both of them where long clothes so I cant tell) approach the shards of Narsil. __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

04-01-2003, 09:40 PM	#7
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	Good observations. I can see how the lines even fit to the beginning of RoTK.<P>Very early in the film we see Arwen returning to Rivendell and Elrond asking what she is doing back.<P>Arwen: You have the power of forsight. Tell me what you have seen?<BR>Elrond: He is not coming back.<BR>Arwen: Then I'm going to do something about it.<P>Despite Elrond's protests she goes to get the reforged Narsil/Anduril and sets off.<P>Just shooting in the dark.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

04-02-2003, 08:30 AM	#8
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	Actually the part where Elrond says, "he is not coming back" Was in the actual Two Towers. If you look the lighting is way different between the two. But Elrond says that when he was convincing her to leave. __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

04-02-2003, 09:35 AM	#9
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	Oops, so much for that idea.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

04-02-2003, 10:50 AM	#10
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	I bet they will have Elrond and Arwen travel to Lothlorien with Narsil/Andruil. But who can read the mind of PJ? For he is quick to seperate from the book and unpredictable. __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.