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Turgon_of_Gondolin · 03-09-2002, 01:34 PM

In lotr and its appendixes it talks about Gondor and the Haradrim having ships and fighting each other. How was this done? I am sure that it wasn't with cannons or else they would of had guns.

Joy · 03-09-2002, 02:34 PM

Just a though, maybe theyhad long spears attached to the helm of the ship and they rammed the other ship.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 03-09-2002, 04:08 PM

Presumably any or all of the ship-to-ship weapons that they used to use before the invention of cannon: underwater rams; ballistae; archers; boarding parties and perhaps even Greek fire.

Aralaithiel · 03-09-2002, 04:19 PM

OK...blonde moment here. Is Greek fire the same as flaming arrows?

Thingol · 03-09-2002, 04:21 PM

Islidur I know its not Tolkien, but it's a great fan fic and it has a great ship to ship battle in it. They do not use cannons, but underwater rams, catapults, and boarding parties. Cirdan takes part in it (he was on his way to the duel between Sauron, Gil-Galad, and Elendil).

Ahanarion · 03-10-2002, 05:29 AM

Greek Fire is an ancient form of the flame thrower. It is basically a large hand pump filled with oil. The oil is directed through a nozzle and into a pilot lite. It will still burn when on water.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 03-10-2002, 01:24 PM

Or as I heard it put once, an early form of napalm.

03-09-2002, 01:34 PM	#1
Turgon_of_Gondolin Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gondolin Posts: 15	The ships In lotr and its appendixes it talks about Gondor and the Haradrim having ships and fighting each other. How was this done? I am sure that it wasn't with cannons or else they would of had guns.

03-09-2002, 02:34 PM	#2
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	Just a though, maybe theyhad long spears attached to the helm of the ship and they rammed the other ship. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

03-09-2002, 04:08 PM	#3
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Presumably any or all of the ship-to-ship weapons that they used to use before the invention of cannon: underwater rams; ballistae; archers; boarding parties and perhaps even Greek fire. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

03-09-2002, 04:19 PM	#4
Aralaithiel Ghost Eldaran Queen Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A remote mountain in Valinor Posts: 353	OK...blonde moment here. Is Greek fire the same as flaming arrows? __________________ A lelyat, wen! (Quenya Elvish for "You go, girl!"

03-09-2002, 04:21 PM	#5
Thingol Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 259	Islidur I know its not Tolkien, but it's a great fan fic and it has a great ship to ship battle in it. They do not use cannons, but underwater rams, catapults, and boarding parties. Cirdan takes part in it (he was on his way to the duel between Sauron, Gil-Galad, and Elendil). __________________ Yet the lies that Melkor, the mighty and accursed, Morgoth Bauglir, the Power of Terror and of Hate, sowed in the hearts of Elves and Men are a seed that does not die and cannot be destroyed; and ever and anon it sprouts anew, and will bear dark fruit even unto the latest days.

03-10-2002, 05:29 AM	#6
Ahanarion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tirion upon Tuna Posts: 94	Greek Fire is an ancient form of the flame thrower. It is basically a large hand pump filled with oil. The oil is directed through a nozzle and into a pilot lite. It will still burn when on water. __________________ Ohtari i Noldor Hosta!

03-10-2002, 01:24 PM	#7
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Or as I heard it put once, an early form of napalm. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?