Who were these wicked dwarves? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Haramu · 02-26-2013, 02:31 PM

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they did not hate dwarves especially, no more than they hated everybody and everything, and partcularly the orderly and prosperous; in some parts wicked dwarves had even made alliances with them

Who were these wicked dwarves Mr. Tolkien was mentioning. I wonder what they did and how they became wicked dwarves

Mithalwen · 02-26-2013, 02:43 PM

Hi Haramu, are you refering to the goblins in the Hobbit? It might refer to the Petty Dwarves who were banished from ancient dwarf cities for unknown reasons. Or the dwarves in the Book of Lost Tales who were evil and used orc mercenaries.

Aganzir · 02-26-2013, 03:10 PM

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Alas, it seems probable that (as Men did later) the Dwarves of the far eastern mansions (and some of the neared ones?) came under the shadow of Morgoth and turned to evil.

Tolkien's note on Of Dwarves And Men, The Peoples of Middle-earth

Also in some writings the Noldor believed the dwarves would smith to the highest bidder, including Morgoth.

Haramu · 02-26-2013, 03:11 PM

Hello there Mithalwen

. Yes I was refering to the dwarves in the book 'The Hobbit'. I'm so glad you've cleared it up for me a bit and gave me some info about who they were and where they came from. Thank you

Kuruharan · 02-27-2013, 09:36 AM

Hi Haramu,

Here is a link to a thread that discusses evil dwarves at some length.

02-26-2013, 02:43 PM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Hi Haramu, are you refering to the goblins in the Hobbit? It might refer to the Petty Dwarves who were banished from ancient dwarf cities for unknown reasons. Or the dwarves in the Book of Lost Tales who were evil and used orc mercenaries. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

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Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	Dwarves Hi Haramu, Here is a link to a thread that discusses evil dwarves at some length. __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

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Haramu Newly Deceased Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 10	Hello there Mithalwen . Yes I was refering to the dwarves in the book 'The Hobbit'. I'm so glad you've cleared it up for me a bit and gave me some info about who they were and where they came from. Thank you