The Undying Lands - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Joy · 02-06-2002, 12:12 AM

Have a simple question.

I read that the Undying Lands were removed from ME, so in the end of LotR, where do Gandalf, Frodo, Biblo, and the elves go? Do they just go over the sea or do they go to the Undying Land? Also, it is noted that Cirdan the Shipwright stays till the last boat is taken. Do the others that were on the Quest taken there also.

I know that Aragorn and Arwen die naturally. But what of the others, Legolas and Gimli, Merry, Pippin and Samwise?

Nazgûl Queen · 02-06-2002, 04:40 AM

<center><font color="red">Merry and pippin become master of buckland and the Thain, and they go to Minas tirith to die where they are interned with aragorn.

Gimli and legolas go over the sea to the undying lands after Aragorn's death it 120 4th Age.

Sam is mayor of the shire 7 times and then follows frodo etc over the sea to Valinor when his wife rosie dies.

Eruhen · 02-06-2002, 07:16 AM

Even though Aman is removed from ME, the Elves can still find the straight path over the sea. Also, since Gandalf was a Maia, it was rather easy for him to get back to Aman. As for Bilbo and Frodo, I imagine that Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel vouched for them before the Valar.

Elrian · 02-06-2002, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Joy:
<STRONG>Have a simple question.

I read that the Undying Lands were removed from ME, so in the end of LotR, where do Gandalf, Frodo, Biblo, and the elves go? Do they just go over the sea or do they go to the Undying Land? Also, it is noted that Cirdan the Shipwright stays till the last boat is taken. Do the others that were on the Quest taken there also.

I know that Aragorn and Arwen die naturally. But what of the others, Legolas and Gimli, Merry, Pippin and Samwise?</STRONG>

The Elves can still go to the Undying Lands, they take what is called the Straight Road, only the Elves can sail there. Bilbo and Frodo go with Galadriel, Elrond and Gandalf having been bearers of the Ring. Samwise after the death of Rosie goes there as well. Legolas built a ship and sailed there with Gimli after the death of Aragorn. Merry became Master of Buckland and Councellor of the North Kingdom, and Pippin became 32nd Thain of the Shire and Councellor of the North Kingdom., they turned over there offices in the Shire and rode to Rohan and Gondor, a few years later the died in Gondor and were buried with honors the House of Kings along side Aragorn.

Joy · 02-12-2002, 01:15 AM

Thank you so much for clearing that up. I have read the Hobbit now and am reading the Sil. I am understanding more things.

02-06-2002, 12:12 AM	#1
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	The Undying Lands Have a simple question. I read that the Undying Lands were removed from ME, so in the end of LotR, where do Gandalf, Frodo, Biblo, and the elves go? Do they just go over the sea or do they go to the Undying Land? Also, it is noted that Cirdan the Shipwright stays till the last boat is taken. Do the others that were on the Quest taken there also. I know that Aragorn and Arwen die naturally. But what of the others, Legolas and Gimli, Merry, Pippin and Samwise? __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

02-06-2002, 04:40 AM	#2
Nazgûl Queen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 75	<center><font color="red">Merry and pippin become master of buckland and the Thain, and they go to Minas tirith to die where they are interned with aragorn. Gimli and legolas go over the sea to the undying lands after Aragorn's death it 120 4th Age. Sam is mayor of the shire 7 times and then follows frodo etc over the sea to Valinor when his wife rosie dies. __________________ - The Nazgûl they were; the Ringwraiths, the Enemy's most terribly servants; darkness went with them and they cried with the voices of death -

02-06-2002, 07:16 AM	#3
Eruhen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: At the Mountains of Madness Posts: 399	Even though Aman is removed from ME, the Elves can still find the straight path over the sea. Also, since Gandalf was a Maia, it was rather easy for him to get back to Aman. As for Bilbo and Frodo, I imagine that Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel vouched for them before the Valar. __________________ Agannâlô burôda nênud; zâira nênud. Adûn izindi batân tâidô ayadda: îdô kâtha batîna lôkhî. Êphalak îdôn Yôzâyan. Êphal êphalak îdôn hi-Akallabêth.

02-12-2002, 01:15 AM	#5
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	Thank you so much for clearing that up. I have read the Hobbit now and am reading the Sil. I am understanding more things. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?